Recording a vocalist with extreme dynamics

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pathdoc said:
After all of that I noticed a couple of obviously flat notes that in itself should require the vocal track to be re-recorded.
Never heard of Autotune!??

lol, I shouldnt promote Chest(small)cock or even Autotune for that matter.
No offense Chessrock.

Eck
 
I tried riding the volume control slider at the input but his volume spikes are somewhat unpredictable and I would end up pulling the slider down halfway throught the offensively loud word and cut off the following word. I prefer to avoid heavy use of the compressor if I can help it but in this case it ended up helping.
Chessrock, your attitude is unprofessional at best. Why bother insulting others when your time is obviously so much more important than ours?
 
I do have a program in which I can work on tuning, Melodyne. I like it and use it when needed.
On this project I couldn't get the corrected vocal track to import back into Cubase. Not sure why it wouldn't. I just need to work with it a little longer. Its worked fine on other projects.
 
pathdoc said:
Chessrock, your attitude is unprofessional at best. Why bother insulting others when your time is obviously so much more important than ours?

What's more important ... me being nice to you and making you feel all warm and fuzzy?

Or getting a good answer to your recording question?

Look, this is really basic stuff, pathdoc. You track low enough to where you don't get clipping on the loudest passages. Then come mixdown, you use the volume envelope (or automated fader or whatever else is available to you) to manually bring up the quieter passages and/or knock down the loud ones. Done.

Or you use a compressor, or a combination of the two. That's how it's done, and that's always how it's been done in the 24-bit world, and since I don't see us going back to 8-bit any time in the near future, it's probably how it always will be done until someone invents something better.

Can I get you a hanky to dry your tears off with now? :D
 
chessrock said:
What's more important ... me being nice to you and making you feel all warm and fuzzy?

Or getting a good answer to your recording question?
:D


Hmmmm....
I dont THINK those are mutually exclusive.... Are they?

;)
 
tmix said:
Hmmmm....
I dont THINK those are mutually exclusive.... Are they?

;)


It sure as hell seems that way.

In this thread, I see about 20 posts attempting to answer this guy's very rudimentary dilemna. To be blunt, included among them are some of the most useless pieces of advice I've ever read on a forum ... but they sure are very nicely-worded and encouraging posts. :D

From now on, I think I'll just change my sig line to read " ... and a fine good day to you, chap. You sure are a bright and charismatic fellow that I would so enjoy the opportunity to sit down and have a spot of tea with on a lovely afternoon!"

Maybe that will help negate some of the nasty shit that's sure to precede. :D

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I was able to fix this vocal track using Melodyne. I was able to correct a few pitch problems and was also able to use the amplitude feature and reduce the volume of the offending notes. I also used a compressor on the track.
Again, thanks for all the advice.
I'm finally happy with this song and I think the band will be as well. :)
To answer Chessrock, I do automate the volume on tracks like this one. The problem was being able to adjust the volume quickly enough to not cut off the very next word which was very quiet compared to the previous loud word. Bottom line is this was a very difficult track to automate and mix into the song.
 
If you're using some kind of computer setup, the recording software should allow you to set up a volume envelope.

So I don't know what you're using or if it has this capability, but a volume envelope is a completely non-destructive way to automate the volume however you'd like. When you turn the thing on, it shows up as a line on the waveform. You can drag it up or down across different parts of the wave. You can zoom out on the waveform and automate between syllables if you like. It isn't necessary to use it in real time.

I can see how manually riding a fader could be a challenge.

Anyway, it's good that you found a way to fix it.


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The volume envelope is essentially what I ended up doing. Rather that do that in Cubase I performed it in Melodyne.
 
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