recommendations for some mics please

[chaospigthing]

i'm looking to get some mics,

I need a set for miking drums and a vocal/amp/instrument mic

cheap as poss, yet don't want quality for decent demos (ie. least amount of noise)

this is what i was thinking, probably stupid, let me know..

a Sm58 for my vocal/amp/inst.

set of drum mics (3 toms, snare, bass mic) which i'm sure i've seen for £100 (haven't looked into price range, so that could be way off)

would use my sm58 and a borrowed on stands to mic cymbals.

it's just for demos, how can i do better than this? are drums mics the best thing to use or should i just use sm58's??

CHEERS

 

[chaospigthing]

should they be sm57 or 58??

is there a difference, or do 58's actually exist??

sorry, i'm a stupid newbie who knows nothing....

 

[Garak]

58's are mainly for vocals and have a ball windscreen on them.
57's are the same as the 58's just without the ball and have a diffrent little "guard" around the capsule

The 58's are the workhorses of live sound because they sound pretty good (for a live mic) and they are tough enough to be used as hammers.

The 57 is another workhorse of the live world but its also the work horse of the recording world used on gutiar amps and snare drum primarly. In live we use them for everything and anything where we wouldn't use a 58.

The 57 is more suited for recording than the 58 and its only $79 USD.

Also take a look at the Behringer reference mic, its like $35 USD and its good for drum overheads.

 

[Beezoboy]

I have a achieved a nice sound using entirely 57's and 58's on a drum set. I am using compression and EQ though. I would suggest doing like this:

57 1/2 in bass drum pointing at beater
57 on snare (at top)
57 on two rack toms
57 on floor tom

2 58's or ECM8000's as overheads
one about 3 to 4 feet above highhat
one about 2 feet above ride
(try to position them between ride and a cymbal and you'll get a nice crash sound too)

The only thing I would suggest is that for vocals you get a large diaphram condenser. I would suggest one of the following

AGG C3000B - Nice for vocals and I have achieved nice results on bass cabinets too ($279 - 299)

Studio Projects C1 - The was a guy that used this mic to do a song on this forum that had a great sound. If you search and type C1 you might be able to find it and listen. ($199 - 229)

Behringer B2 - Another mic that seems to be nice. I have heard good things about it but never used or heard it. ($199)

You'll achieve a much better vocal sound with on of those 3. Keep in mind they'll need phantom power though.

Robby