JimmyS1969
MOODerator
What, one of these?
By the way, the other adapters are what I use to connect from a line out, to the XLR cable, with the 8201 at the amp input. Worked great, the two times I have needed it in 3 years.
What, one of these?
By the way, the other adapters are what I use to connect from a line out, to the XLR cable, with the 8201 at the amp input. Worked great, the two times I have needed it in 3 years.
miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
My point was that you CAN re-record if needed....so need need to worry about perfect tones, all decided on during mixdown...but no need to re-record to death.
Otherwise, practice aside, I'll do 3-5 passes at most, and move on, 'cuz after that it's not going to be any more better/worse....and it's just a question of picking the best of....so re-recording to death to get that one perfect takes is just as silly as waiting until the mix to make all your production decisions, as is doing 35 alternate mixes and then trying to pick the one you think is "best".
I like to keep most things in the 3-5 count when recording. I feel that you need at least 3 to have some choice, and then maybe two more for "safety net" reasons....and then move on.
JimmyS1969
MOODerator
The safety net, is just another tool. If recording on a computer based DAW, you likely have no track limit. Whether it is needed to record a direct line or not, is subjective to the client. This has way more to do with recording others, than it would recording your own stuff. When cost is an issue, best business to have alternate possibilities. Getting it right the first time is great. Clients with crap gear, well....
JG96
Active member
What, one of these?
By the way, the other adapters are what I use to connect from a line out, to the XLR cable, with the 8201 at the amp input. Worked great, the two times I have needed it in 3 years.
Yup! Mine looks identical but the cable is TRS male to XLR male.
Justsomeguy
Quiet is the new Loud
That was the point i was also trying to make, summed up in a "just because you can, doesn't mean you have to" kind of sentiment, but with hindsight, and after a re-read, it would appear that 5 am is not the best time to articulate my ideas
miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
There are times when it's smart to have a safety net and to have alternatives, etc....I just find that when it's mainly for the sake of stalled decision making, it's not always something that benefits you.
I think tracking is the meat-n-potatoes of any production...not processing, mixing and all that stuff that comes after...so it's the "tone of the moment" that can often open the door for the whole production vibe.
I think tracking is the meat-n-potatoes of any production...not processing, mixing and all that stuff that comes after...so it's the "tone of the moment" that can often open the door for the whole production vibe.
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metalj
New member
I like reamping because
I read just about everything in this thread. I see pro's an con's to a lot of different peoples points. I also see some that just cant seem to ever give a real life example, they are always just spewing their sheltered know it all opinion when in actuality they probably have never been directly involved in doing it.
I will say I am completely convinced that re-amping is the way to go for me in order to get the result I wanted.
Ill just add my 2 cents to how re-amping can help you like it did me.
I recently released this album using re-amping techniques on the guitars and bass. You be the judge and ask yourself can you get a guitar and cab to sound at least this good? Same with the bass and overall mix Scream at the Sun
Re-amping was great because I was spending money on making a nice sounding album(IMO) and I did not want to mess it up myself. I wanted a professional to make it sound as good as it could. Recording and music production is an art and some people really know how to do it. I do a little, but not enough to risk making my album sound less than stellar.
I recorded all the parts on Pro Tools LE at 88.2k in my basement using a cheesy plug-in that I dialed in pretty good in order for me to perform my best when recording each track. I then took off all the plug-ins leaving a dry clicky guitar signal. I then bounced those dry clicky guitar signals down to wave files. I then sent them (and the entire tracks of the whole album) to the studio of my choice via the internet uploading/downloading. I live in Minnesota and I sent them to a cool cat in Long Island NY and let him since he REALLY knows what he is doing re-amp everything using the best known modified amps on the planet (which I do not have).
So all my guitars were re-amped with a Barron K2 which is about a $4k amp, not sure about the cab, but the point is this... Re-amping saved me a ton of time and money. I was able to track everything on my own at my own time and then negotiated a fair price for the professional studio to do the entire album in one price. If I had done the usual which is book studio time at an hourly rate and then try to cram all the performances into one session then I may not be as happy with my "one shot" performance as being able to comfortably do it on my own time, I did not have to pay an hourly rate to track.
Basically the re-amping process give you unlimited options. As long as the dry tracks exist almost anything can be done with them.
I wish I could do music production as good as this guy that did my album or true professionals in general, but reality is, for me writing and creating the music is where it's at and letting someone who is really good at the production side of things do their thing and hopefully the two talents will create something really good.
This is one real life example of how re-amping can be used to benefit you. I hope this helps you in making the best decision for yourself.
I will also add one thing that will save you lots of time. Once you have your final performance tracked, be sure to do all the editing of the tracks like eliminating string noises before each part sounds, snapping to grid, fades etc.. on your dry tracks BEFORE re-amping otherwise you will have to edit every single track you re-amp.
cheers.
I read just about everything in this thread. I see pro's an con's to a lot of different peoples points. I also see some that just cant seem to ever give a real life example, they are always just spewing their sheltered know it all opinion when in actuality they probably have never been directly involved in doing it.
I will say I am completely convinced that re-amping is the way to go for me in order to get the result I wanted.
Ill just add my 2 cents to how re-amping can help you like it did me.
I recently released this album using re-amping techniques on the guitars and bass. You be the judge and ask yourself can you get a guitar and cab to sound at least this good? Same with the bass and overall mix Scream at the Sun
Re-amping was great because I was spending money on making a nice sounding album(IMO) and I did not want to mess it up myself. I wanted a professional to make it sound as good as it could. Recording and music production is an art and some people really know how to do it. I do a little, but not enough to risk making my album sound less than stellar.
I recorded all the parts on Pro Tools LE at 88.2k in my basement using a cheesy plug-in that I dialed in pretty good in order for me to perform my best when recording each track. I then took off all the plug-ins leaving a dry clicky guitar signal. I then bounced those dry clicky guitar signals down to wave files. I then sent them (and the entire tracks of the whole album) to the studio of my choice via the internet uploading/downloading. I live in Minnesota and I sent them to a cool cat in Long Island NY and let him since he REALLY knows what he is doing re-amp everything using the best known modified amps on the planet (which I do not have).
So all my guitars were re-amped with a Barron K2 which is about a $4k amp, not sure about the cab, but the point is this... Re-amping saved me a ton of time and money. I was able to track everything on my own at my own time and then negotiated a fair price for the professional studio to do the entire album in one price. If I had done the usual which is book studio time at an hourly rate and then try to cram all the performances into one session then I may not be as happy with my "one shot" performance as being able to comfortably do it on my own time, I did not have to pay an hourly rate to track.
Basically the re-amping process give you unlimited options. As long as the dry tracks exist almost anything can be done with them.
I wish I could do music production as good as this guy that did my album or true professionals in general, but reality is, for me writing and creating the music is where it's at and letting someone who is really good at the production side of things do their thing and hopefully the two talents will create something really good.
This is one real life example of how re-amping can be used to benefit you. I hope this helps you in making the best decision for yourself.
I will also add one thing that will save you lots of time. Once you have your final performance tracked, be sure to do all the editing of the tracks like eliminating string noises before each part sounds, snapping to grid, fades etc.. on your dry tracks BEFORE re-amping otherwise you will have to edit every single track you re-amp.
cheers.