"Real" Tube Preamps...

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recently, i've been reading about "real" tube preamp (units that do not merely blend 12AX7 distortion with a solid state signal, i guess?). i'm really after that "real" tube amp sound...but like everyone, i'm on a budget. i've heard all about the peavey vmp-2 ($600-$700), and i'd love to get one of those...but i can't find one anywhere. so my question is: is the newer peavey tmp-1 a "real" tube preamp, or an effect like the behringer and art stuff? how about the bellari rp220...i've heard that technically that is a "real" tube preamp, is that true?

i'm really interested in the peavey tmp-1. i've read the review (em, i think?), and they seem to think it wasn't quite as good as the vmp-2. the 24v phantom power is a bummer, but i can always get a 48v phantom box. so, is the tmp-1 (or rp220) a "real" tube preamp?
 
Check out the Sebatron VMP 1, 2, 4 channel pre-amps.
They are high-voltage (300 v), discrete class-A, flexible sounding preamps that have a signature of their own.

~Sebatron~ rocks.
 
ghetto3jon said:
recently, i've been reading about "real" tube preamp (units that do not merely blend 12AX7 distortion with a solid state signal, i guess?). i'm really after that "real" tube amp sound...but like everyone, i'm on a budget.

I do not know about this exact unit, but some of these combos are solid state amps that use a tube to modulate the signal.

What sort of amps are you talking about when you say you want that tube sound? There is a really wide range of sounds when it comes to tube mic pres.
 
A Designs, real tubes, real transformers, clean but nice character with open top end.

Sweet...

War
 
There is no headroom and the breakup is very grainy. The only use I've found is on kick drums that you want to blow up like that. Junk.
 
IMO signature lines can contain whatever the user wants - what's the big deal anyway? If you don't like the poster, you're less likely to support their business. If you do like the poster, you're more likely to. Nothing wrong with that. That's business - like handing out busines cards. If you like the person, you may keep it and call if you need that kind of service. If you don't like the person, the card ends up in the trash.

-krag
 
Should we all take links to our studio site out of the signature as well? What about ronans boot camp, or warheads Front end audio, or Blue bears studio?

The signature states who I am and what I do, like a signature should.
 
Fair enough... then you won't mine the anti advertising messages in my signature space.
 
DJL said:
Fair enough... then you won't mine the anti advertising messages in my signature space.

I don't. It was the PM that you sent me that I minded.
What do you do for a living? I think it is nice to be part of a community that is made up of people that do all sorts of different things. We can all help and support each other. I would much rather frequent a business that is run by someone I have a familiarity with, even if it is just online. If you do something and are proud of it, let us know. Someone might have a question that you would be uniquely qualified to answer, but we will never know if you don't 'advertise' what you do.
 
Its really sad that everybody and their mother has a "professional" recording studio.

I wonder how many of them know how to use it?
 
DJL is referring to my A Designs statement. He has decided that I must be sure that every time I post on HR I must specify that I am a dealer. I have a couple of problems with this first off and I am not trying to offend anyone here including DJL.

By clicking on my signature, by choice of course, anyone can find out what I do. That's my blanket statement. All I'm saying is I sell gear. All the brands are clearly laid out on our site, I'm not hiding a thing.

I think it would be considered SPAM a lot WORSE if I voiced my opinion on gear and said "by the way, we're a dealer for XXX brand" because anyone who is not DJL would view it that way. I think it's way too SPAMMY to keep saying that. And if I'm going to limit what I say or tag "by the way" to everything I say around here, then there are a whole lot of other folks who need to pony up the same.

In one recent thread another "gear pimp" who pops in to comment on occassion was praised by DJL for doing the exact same thing I do...talk about gear he's familiar with and happens to sell. But he's someone DJL claims he can "relate" to and doesn't consider his post SPAM...but he is doing what DJL claims is SPAM by everyone else!!

Read it: http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=1173940#post1173940

And no I am NOT singling out Fletcher in this case, I have respect for the man and what he's done, I'm saying read the thread and see what DJL is up to. I simply state in that thread that a Radial D.I. has been working well for me. Fletcher pops in and gives a price and everything, and DJL tells him he can "relate" to him and blah blah blah.

This isn't a case of who's spamming, it's a case of who DJL wants to single out.

It makes no sense to me, and now I am a "DJL target" I suppose. It's pretty clear to me that I'm not as cool as other sales folks to DJL anyhow. That's fine, but the obvious double standard he would like to impose on me isn't fair.

In this thread, Bowisc (what up Bowisc) makes a suggestion of Sebatron gear, he uses it (is not a dealer) and knows it is real tube stuff as the original poster ghetto3jon asked about. So, I've used A Designs gear and am here to tell you along with a lot of other people that it's real tube gear also. I didn't say "you have to buy this from me" or "everything else sucks"...the guy wants to know what's real. He's leaning towards a Peavey and I'm not familiar with it and could not comment on it specifically, but in MY studio, when I want a tube pre, I reach for A Designs because it's what I have and I know the sound.

I have been posting on these forums for several years alongside many of you. I had over 2,500 posts on Harmony Central before even becoming a gear dealer, 1,000 at Studio Forums, and probably 175-200 here. I talk about gear, it's what I enjoy.

Does DJL ever pop in to call me a spammer when I comment about E/V mics I do not sell? How about Shure mics I don't sell? How about Mackie monitors I do not sell? How about suggesting the RANE MS1B preamp on occassion? I'm not saying my actions are anything special as a member, I think that if I have a product that I'm familiar with and I can help someone or just talk about it with someone, I should be able to. I was a forum member first, gear seller later. I don't think I should have to turn off my involvement or curb it, I actually enjoy these forums!!!

Months after becoming a gear reseller, I was asked to review the Langevin Dual Vocal Combo by Steven over at www.mojopie.com . Go read that review, and tell me if my opinion is biased etc. I like that unit and I said I did, and it's a competing product sold by Mercenary and others. NOT Front End Audio. Why did I do it? Because I enjoy reviewing gear also and like writing, but I also enjoy helping people out. That review was written months after we started the business. By the way, Eve Anna Manley and company didn't pay me off or anything either and I didn't purchase the box at a discount (I didn't buy it, couldn't afford at the time) I just did it because someone asked me to and I did it for free.

So I'm a member of this community and one person so far has a problem with me, and it's DJL. No surprise there, he's run off Harvey Gerst and others in the past and Harvey is the nicest man I think I have ever dealt with.

Anyway, sorry for the long rant. I gotta go respond to DJL's request in my PM box to remove any and all links in my signature relating to selling gear. Thanks again for singling me out DJL.

War
 
Outlaws said:
Its really sad that everybody and their mother has a "professional" recording studio.

I wonder how many of them know how to use it?

I've been making a good living with my studios for over a decade, I'm pretty confident.
 
Oh, and before DJL gets the chance to edit his response in that linked thread I threw up, here it is:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fletcher
Sonic Albert and I are pretty much of the same mind on this one... but a few years ago we ran into some fairly cool little DI's called the "Ax Max"... for $75- they're pretty hard to beat [sorry if this is coming off as spam... that wasn't the intention]


DJL's Response: FWIW, IMO, none of your post ever come-off as spam... and I've always trusted your opinion (we have similar taste).

I wish some of the distributors on HR would takes notes from people like Dan Kennedy and yourself, and learn how to post helpful messages without squeezing their spam and dripping pimp juice on us.

With that said... thanks for always being up-front and honest in all your post.

EDIT: spelling correction.
 
Farview said:
I don't. It was the PM that you sent me that I minded.

Hey, I'm not the only one who got the PM...I feel special now!!

War :cool:
 
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