question about procedure

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brookman said:
If I post a link to some files (individual tracks) from our bands practice - can some one explain to me what I am doing wrong when I mix it. The final mix sounds hollow. I can't figure out what I am doing wrong.

I need to produce a demo so we have something to give out to bar owners to see what we sound like and I would like it to sound reasonably good.
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Hi Brookman..

I pulled up the Allman track to see the mood on the original, and it is a lot more laid back and mellow than the EQ and balance choices you made. Here is my quick and dirty mix/master with your existing tracks. I patched the parts where the drummer hit the sidestick trigger by accident (tell him to decrease the sensitivity on the rim). I killed all the crosstalk and bleed in the open mics, pulled about 15dB of mud out of the bottom end on the drums and bass, rolled everything below 100Hz off both guitars, Autotuned both vocals, threw a light doubler on the lead vocal, pulled back the very striden backup vox, and pulled some of the midrange out of the guitars to mellow them out. Finally, all tracks got brightness nudges between 4KHz and 11Kz in various degrees and curves.

The net result is a lot mellower and smoother, but the guitar solos suffered a little as a result. I was concentrating on the first minute as my target patina anyway, since you should really just do short clips of several songs on a demo CD, they aren't ever gonna listen to the whole tune. If you don't bag em in the first 0:45, you're aren't gonna bag em. No long intros, get right to the meat.

Anyway, I'm a Jazz guy, and I may have my head entirely up my ass on these choices, let the rockers tell you if I got it right... :D

Midnight Rider - LlarionMix™

Feel free to use it if you like it, bud I'd retrack this anyway, the bass player stopped too many times, it sounds very tentative...
 
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Thanks for taking the time to do that- I have the task of playing Bass and running the sound board and recorder. sometimes I get sidetracked :rolleyes:

On a good note our band recording computer took a dump - when I rebuilt it - I had to reset all the levels - both into the Aardvark and CuBase and it made a world of difference. Now when you play back the raw tracks they actually sound good and balanced - I haven't had a chance to attempt to mix any of it yet - but it already sounds 10 times better than the raw files I presented here.
 
brookman said:
Thanks for taking the time to do that- I have the task of playing Bass and running the sound board and recorder. sometimes I get sidetracked :rolleyes:

On a good note our band recording computer took a dump - when I rebuilt it - I had to reset all the levels - both into the Aardvark and CuBase and it made a world of difference. Now when you play back the raw tracks they actually sound good and balanced - I haven't had a chance to attempt to mix any of it yet - but it already sounds 10 times better than the raw files I presented here.
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Yeah, that'll happen... I tried to patch the empty parts, but it sounded obviously artificial, so I backed em out. The drums are easier to fix; sharper attacks and all. And I'm a vDrums player myself, so I understand the issues at hand...

Good deal on the new preset! Hope it works out for you!
 
Llarion said:
Yeah, that'll happen... I tried to patch the empty parts, but it sounded obviously artificial, so I backed em out. The drums are easier to fix; sharper attacks and all. And I'm a vDrums player myself, so I understand the issues at hand...

Good deal on the new preset! Hope it works out for you!
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I did patch some of the empty sections of the bass. Still, I know what you mean.
And what up Phil!
 
Not much man!! Came back about after a 2 year break, been reviewing and dropping threads, and hassling Rami... :) Lots of new tuneage...
 
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