Punch-in Style Compression

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How Do I Get The "punch-in" Effect From Compressing The Aux Sends? I Want The Effect That Makes It Sound Punchy And Full With Increased Dynamic Range? The Punch-in Making It Bigger Between Loudest Parts And Smallest Parts In Order To Make It Louder Than My Cds?

Can Someone Explain To Me How To Use Punch-in Effect With The Compressor In Which I/o, In Order To Get My Sound The Loudest And Punchiest For Rock Mixes.

And Should I Use Reverb With A Punchy Compressed Sound Or Keep It Dry?

Which Compressor Is Good For Punch-in For Under 1000?
 
I have no clue what you mean. Punch-in is a term that has do to with where something starts, it has nothing to do with tone or volume. Could you maybe explain in more different terms what it is your trying to reach?
 
Also, compression will by its very nature DECREASE the dynamic range. Theat's what "compression" means. Compression can, however, be used as an effect to get a bit of punch out of drums or bass. But how depends on the nature of the track to be effected. The idea is to set the the attack slow enough to let the initial transient through before the compressor engages and the release long enough to keep the note up but fast enough to get out of the way for the next note.
 
Track Rat said:
Also, compression will by its very nature DECREASE the dynamic range. Theat's what "compression" means. Compression can, however, be used as an effect to get a bit of punch out of drums or bass. But how depends on the nature of the track to be effected. The idea is to set the the attack slow enough to let the initial transient through before the compressor engages and the release long enough to keep the note up but fast enough to get out of the way for the next note.

PUNCH-IN COMPRESSION WILL MAKE EVERYTHING LOUDER. API AND NEUMMANN MICS TAILOR TO PUNCH-IN COMPRESSION VERY GOOD. NEVE IS GOOD FOR PUNCH-IN COMPRESSION.
 
UB802 said:
I think I want to punch-in a big ol' "this thread topic is lame and stupid!". I don't need Neve to make that statement loud and punchy! ;)

There is no industry accepted term called "punch-in compression".

DON'T BE MEAN :rolleyes:. I JUST MEANT THE TYPE OF COMPRESSION THAT MAKES STUFF LOUDER. I THOUGHT IT WAS CALLED PUNCH-IN IN PRO-TOOLS?
WHATEVER.....I DON'T HAVE PRO-TOOLS YET SO I DON'T KNOW. IF YOU WANT YOU CAN HEP ME OUT INSTEAD OF BEING CONDESENDING.
 
UB802 said:
You mean condescending like you were toward Brad Blackwood?

Try not SHOUTING EVERY FUCKING WORD too please.

There has already been some good ideas posted about how to make stuff louder.
:eek: ....................... ;)
 
BRIEFCASEMANX said:
How Do I Get The "punch-in" Effect From Compressing The Aux Sends? I Want The Effect That Makes It Sound Punchy And Full With Increased Dynamic Range? The Punch-in Making It Bigger Between Loudest Parts And Smallest Parts In Order To Make It Louder Than My Cds?

Can Someone Explain To Me How To Use Punch-in Effect With The Compressor In Which I/o, In Order To Get My Sound The Loudest And Punchiest For Rock Mixes.

And Should I Use Reverb With A Punchy Compressed Sound Or Keep It Dry?

Which Compressor Is Good For Punch-in For Under 1000?

I think he means PLUG In instead of PUNCH In.
 
Did you get your nappy in walters? Here's an essay for ya-

An essay on Punch-in Style Compression

The subject of Punch-in Style Compression is a controversial issue. Underestimate Punch-in Style Compression at your peril. Cited by many as the single most important influence on post modern micro eco compartmentalism, it is yet to receive proper recognition for laying the foundations of democracy. Inevitably feelings run deep amongst global commercial enterprises, whom I can say no more about due to legal restrictions. With the primary aim of demonstrating my considerable intellect I will now demonstrate the complexity of the many faceted issue that is Punch-in Style Compression .

Social Factors

Society is our own everyday reality. When J H Darcy said 'fevour will spread' [1] she failed to understand that if one seriously intends to 'not judge a book by its cover', then one must read a lot of books. While the western world use a knife and fork, the Chinese use chopsticks. Of course Punch-in Style Compression demonstrates a coherent approach, something so lacking in our culture, that it is not recognised by all.

Special care must be taken when analysing such a delicate subject. On the other hand anyone that disagrees with me is an idiot. Clearly it promotes higher individualism and obeyence of instinct. As soon as a child meets Punch-in Style Compression they are changed.

Economic Factors

Increasingly economic growth and innovation are being attributed to Punch-in Style Compression . We will primarily be focusing on the Spanish-Armada model of economics. Annual
Military
Budget

Punch-in Style Compression


The results displayed in the graph are too clear to be ignored. Of course the annual military budget is in financial terms 'holding hands with Punch-in Style Compression .' A sharp down turn in middle class investment may lead to changes in the market.

Political Factors

Politics was once a game featuring competitors from elite classes. Comparing current political thought with that held just ten years ago is like comparing the two sides of Punch-in Style Compression .

In the words of the famous political Elijah Lionel Forbes Dickinson 'Taking a walk across hot coals will inevitably hurt your feet.' [2] This clearly illustrates the primary concern of those involved with Punch-in Style Compression . It is a well known 'secret' that what prompted many politicians to first strive for power was Punch-in Style Compression .

I hope, for our sake that Punch-in Style Compression will endure.
Conclusion

In my opinion Punch-in Style Compression must not be allowed to get in the way of the bigger question: why are we here? Putting this aside its of great importance. It collaborates successfully, invades where necessary and it is human.

The final say goes to the award winning Nicole Hendrix: 'I wouldn't be where I am today without Punch-in Style Compression .' [3]



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[1] J H Darcy - The Spaniard - 1988 - PPT

[2] Dickinson - I Am The Dickinster - 1999 Hughs Books

[3] Everything you always wanted to know about Punch-in Style Compression , but were afraid to ask. - Issue 287 - QKS Publishing
 
BRIEFCASEMANX said:
PUNCH-IN COMPRESSION WILL MAKE EVERYTHING LOUDER. API AND NEUMMANN MICS TAILOR TO PUNCH-IN COMPRESSION VERY GOOD. NEVE IS GOOD FOR PUNCH-IN COMPRESSION.

Every compressor is meant to make things louder or more solid. There is not one "kind" of compressor that does that the best. Believe me, there is no such thing as a "punch-in" compressor. If you want your overall volume to be louder without having things clipping, a compressor would be a good idea, but there is no single way to do that. Which compressor to use and how to use it depends entirely on the music and the goal you want to reach.
 
Halion said:
Every compressor is meant to make things louder or more solid. There is not one "kind" of compressor that does that the best. Believe me, there is no such thing as a "punch-in" compressor. If you want your overall volume to be louder without having things clipping, a compressor would be a good idea, but there is no single way to do that. Which compressor to use and how to use it depends entirely on the music and the goal you want to reach.

FOR FOCK MUSIC DUDE. SOMEONE IN THE OTHER THREAD TOLD ME THAT I WAS USING THE WRONG TERM FOR THE MUSIC INDUSTRY STANDARD. I THOUGHT IT WAS CALLED PUNCH-IN COMPRESSION IN PRO-TOOLS SORRY. I WOULDN'T KNOW THOUGH CAUSE I DON'T HAVE PRO-TOOLS YET. I JUST WANT ROCK MIXES WITH A PUNCHY STYLE COMPRESSION. A COMPRESSION THAT CAN MAKE THINGS LOUDER WITH GUITARS. I WANT TO TURN IP UP TO 11 HAHAHAAHAHAHA. I KNOW THAT MULTI-BAND COMPRESSION CAN GIVE YOU THE TIGHTER BOTTOM END. I NEED A HARDWARE UNIT(NOT PRO-TOOLS) FOR UNDER 1000.
 
UB802 said:
You mean condescending like you were toward Brad Blackwood?

Try not SHOUTING EVERY FUCKING WORD too please.

There has already been some good ideas posted about how to make stuff louder.

I WAS NEVER CONDECENDING TO BRAD BLACKWOOD. I SIMPLY ASKED IF HE HAD TRIED THE NEUMANN MICS OUT OR IF HE HAD USED THE WAVES PLUG-INS????? I MAY HAVE BEEN CONDESCENDING TOWARDS LORD TOM ALGE BUT HE DOESN'T USE THE FORUM, AND I APOLOGIZE TO HIM IF HE DOES, OR IF HE IS BRAD BLACKWOOD SECRETLY. I'M SORRY BRO.

I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GET MEAN WITH YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS KEEP GIVING ME NEGATIVE REP FOR NO DAMN REASON. MAYBE YOU ARE JEALOUS OF MY NEVE, API, ETC??? I JUST ASKING SOME QUESTIONS BECAUSE I NEED A COMPRESSOR OF THE "NON PUNCH-IN" VARIETY! SORRY I DON'T HAVE PRO-TOOLS SO I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE TERM PUNCH-IN. I HAVE BEEN HERE AND HAVE POSTED AND HAVE BEEN MIXING FAR LONGER THAN WALTERS AND I DON'T NEED MILKY NIPPLE COMPRESSION OR WHATEVER I NEED PUNCY COMPRESSION FOR BOUNCING ROCK TRACKS. I REALIZE MY MISTAKE NOW CAN YOU HELP ME, BROO???
 
BRIEFCASEMANX said:
I REALIZE MY MISTAKE NOW CAN YOU HELP ME, BROO???

DONT LISTEN TO THOSE REALLY REALLY MEANIES BCM. I WILL HELP YOU THRU HARD TIMEES. I THINK WE CAN MAYBE IF MANY OTHER HELP EACH ONES OTHER TO HELP MANY OTHER FRIENDS-

An essay on help



Let us commence a journey into the much travelled topic of help. I find my self constantly drawn back to the subject of help. While it is becoming a hot topic for debate, help is not given the credit if deserves for inspiring many of the worlds famous painters. Inevitably help is often misunderstood by so called 'babies', who are likely to form a major stronghold in the inevitable battle for hearts and minds. At the heart of the subject are a number of key factors. I plan to examine each of these factors in detail and and asses their importance.

Social Factors

Society is a human product. When Thucictholous said 'people only know one thing' [1] he failed to understand that if one seriously intends to 'not judge a book by its cover', then one must read a lot of books. A society without help is like a society without knowledge, in that it raises the question 'why?'

Did I mention how lovely help is? Society says that every man must find their own truth. While one sees help, another may see monkeys playing tennis.

Economic Factors

Increasingly economic growth and innovation are being attributed to help. We will study the Simple-Many-Pies model, making allowances for recent changes in interest rates. Average
Wage

help


The results displayed in the graph are too clear to be ignored. It goes with out saying that the average wage sings a very different tune. The financial press seems unable to make up its mind on these issues which unsettles investors.

Political Factors

Politics has in some areas been seen to embrace an increasing ananiathesis of intergovernmentalism leading to neo-functionalism. Comparing the electoral politics of most Western and Eastern European countries is like comparing the two sides of help.

In the words of a legend in their own life time, Esperanza B. Adger 'A man must have his cake and eat it in order to justify his actions.' [2] I argue that his insight into help provided the inspiration for these great words. History tells us that help will always be a vote winner, whether we like it, or not.

I hope, for our sake that help will endure.
Conclusion

In conclusion, help is, to use the language of the streets 'Super Cool.' It enriches, brought up a generation and it brings the best out in people.

I will leave the last word to the famous Nicole Jackson: 'Oooh yeah help shoo badaby dooo.' [3]



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[1] Thucictholous - Man - Published 42 AD

[2] Adger - Politics Per Day - 2000 Jinder Publishing

[3] Everything you always wanted to know about help, but were afraid to ask. - Issue 287 - QKS Publishing
 
ez_willis said:
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AKA YOU AREN'T KNOWLEGABLE ON THE SUBJECT TO HELP ME SO YOU POST CRAP TO GET YOUR POST COUNT UP. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. MANY PEOPLE ON THIS SITE HAVE HELPED ME IN THE PAST, BUT THOSE PEOPLE ACTUALLY KNEW A THING OR TWO ABOUT RECORDING. I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO PROVE ME WRONG THOGH, BRO.
 
Wiilis, Willis, Willis. What am I gonna do with you. Get on the bus now. We're going straight home.
 
BRIEFCASEMANX said:
AKA YOU AREN'T KNOWLEGABLE ON THE SUBJECT TO HELP ME SO YOU POST CRAP TO GET YOUR POST COUNT UP. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. MANY PEOPLE ON THIS SITE HAVE HELPED ME IN THE PAST, BUT THOSE PEOPLE ACTUALLY KNEW A THING OR TWO ABOUT RECORDING. I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO PROVE ME WRONG THOGH, BRO.

Yeah, post count is everything in my world, without it I am just another troll on another bbs. How's this for proving you wrong-






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An essay on ez_willis' vast and complete recording knowledge


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ez_willis' vast and complete recording knowledge


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[1] Lance Bandaner - Adventurous Spirit - 1993 See-Saw Publishing

[2] Shandy - Ice Cold - 1994 Pitter Patter Publishing

[3] Your ez_willis' vast and complete recording knowledge - Issue 43 - Never Ever Publishing
 
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