Public Mix Contest #12!!!!!!!!!!!!

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When is the deadline? Cause I am gonna be downloading the zip file tonight and start mixing....also do we have to master these or do we just mix it....im guessing just mix becuase its a mix contest but just in case...
 
SwurVe said:
When is the deadline? Cause I am gonna be downloading the zip file tonight and start mixing....also do we have to master these or do we just mix it....im guessing just mix becuase its a mix contest but just in case...
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to my knowledge..the deadline has not been set.
 
I won't bother mixing this thing, but what scares me is how some people are grading the mixes.
What are you using as a reference song? Listening to some of the mixes, people are receiving praise for mixes that I find uncontrolled and bland.
People are getting cut down for having 'bright' mixes. In my opinion, some of these mixes that were called overly bright were actually quite good and tended to sound the closest to professional mixes. I am not saying dog-killing treble = professional mix. I am saying that some people need to listen to professionally-done multimillion dollar studio productions as reference. When comparing some of the mixes that have been praised here, I find some fatiguing and lifeless, due to their lack of clarity and atmosphere in the higher end.

I would cite some specific examples if you require me to, but I can already see the flaming b/c I am challenging some of the 'well-respected' on the forum.

All I am saying is that if I posted a well-executed professionally done multimillion dollar mix, it would probably get passed of as 'too bright, too clear, not heavy enough, etc...'
 
gtrboy said:
well then lets hear a mix.

heres a new version of mine:

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IMO, the kick and snare sound like the are behind a blanket, just muffled. Snare is a bit too strong at around 300 Hz, which would be ok if it had more 'snap' to it. I guess it realistically needs to have less of the sample in it and more real snare.

I think the vocals also lack depth, which the distracting mono delay does not help.

The bass gtr could also use some light compression to make it a bit smoother.

To me, song lacks overall sparkle and atmosphere at the top end.

Also clips at 1:46 (vox)
 
Guild, I say go ahead and say what you want. Who cares what others think? I personally don't mind if someone wants to tearmy mix apart. In the end, it is onlytheir opinion, and my work has kept my studio open for 9 years now without ever advertising. I respect what other people have to say as long as they don't do it maliciously. In the end I listen to what others say, and then I ask myself if their comment is valid. Sometimes I find it is and I make changes, sometimes I find it isn't and I go with what I felt.

Personally, if the "well respected" on this site can't either listen to constructive criticism or just ignore idiot remarks, than maybe they shouldn't be so well respected. We are all hear to learn, share knowledge and grow. I respect those people who are not afraid to stand up for what they believe, even if their belief is unpopular. I know I have my own likes and dislikes and am pretty strong about them. For one, I am not an M-Audio fan, I don't care for RNC's, am not super stoked on the Soundcraft M series, pretty much dislike sennheiser 421's on most things etc.... All of those are things that are typically pretty widely reccomended around here:D
 
Guild of Guilds said:
I won't bother mixing this thing, but what scares me is how some people are grading the mixes.
What are you using as a reference song? Listening to some of the mixes, people are receiving praise for mixes that I find uncontrolled and bland.
People are getting cut down for having 'bright' mixes. In my opinion, some of these mixes that were called overly bright were actually quite good and tended to sound the closest to professional mixes. I am not saying dog-killing treble = professional mix. I am saying that some people need to listen to professionally-done multimillion dollar studio productions as reference. When comparing some of the mixes that have been praised here, I find some fatiguing and lifeless, due to their lack of clarity and atmosphere in the higher end.
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Well I'm the culprit in calling stuff bright. As for a reference song, feel free to throw out a nominee. I was a huge HUGE metal fan back in the day, but the last metal album I actually bought was Justice. But I'll stand behind my comments, because I feel they are accurate quantitatively and qualitatively.

Still, gimme a pro tune, and I'll have a listen. My philosophy is that metal drums shouldn't be as bright as pop, because there are too many hits and it gets fatiguing. But I am willing to be proven wrong.
 
My philosophy is that metal drums shouldn't be as bright as pop, because there are too many hits and it gets fatiguing. But I am willing to be proven wrong.
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That's a very interesting premise, and one I hadn't thought of. I've been tearing my hair out because I couldn't get the drums to both be "bright enough", and yet have good punchy kick to them. So far, I don't think anyone has, because of what I think is poor care in acquisition, but your point is a good one, because working on this mix fatigued me WAY more than mixing my own material does. I didn't know why, and this may be it.

Plus, I'm thinking that my second "final" may not in fact be final, because the more I listen to it, the more I want to go at it again. :)
 
Llarion said:
That's a very interesting premise, and one I hadn't thought of. I've been tearing my hair out because I couldn't get the drums to both be "bright enough", and yet have good punchy kick to them. So far, I don't think anyone has, because of what I think is poor care in acquisition, but your point is a good one, because working on this mix fatigued me WAY more than mixing my own material does. I didn't know why, and this may be it.
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I haven't minded the kick so much, most people are close there. I believe the click on the kick is slightly below all of these issues.

The snare is a bigger problem for most mixers at this point. Overall it's a matter of too many instruments fighting for the same space. When snare is competing with cymbals and vocal presence, something's gotta give.
 
mshilarious said:
I haven't minded the kick so much, most people are close there. I believe the click on the kick is slightly below all of these issues.

The snare is a bigger problem for most mixers at this point. Overall it's a matter of too many instruments fighting for the same space. When snare is competing with cymbals and vocal presence, something's gotta give.
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Amen to that. And it's too many sounds with strident waveforms which compounds the problem further. It's a very challenging situation, and one where even minor differences in choices can have a major effect on the net result. I'm used to a much sparser soundstage, and rounder waveforms. I really tore what little was left of my hair out on this. But, I did enjoy constructing what I think is a much more suitable and interesting intro than the little 50s drum lick... :)
 
mshilarious said:
I've been waiting for the obnoxious mix, but I don't think we've heard it yet :eek: ;)
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yeah peoples mixes sound pretty sweet, i just dl'ed the files, pretty big.... if anyone is having self esteem issues with their mix let me know and ill make u feel heaps better :)
 
Hiya, I finally come up with my very final last final mix to be posted as a final mix.



Round # 3 ------ Fight!!!!!

AND FINAL MIX!
 
Llarion said:
OK, I listened to everyones that I could find... Besides me (heh ;) ), I like Eck's best, but I think he should leave his superlatively cool alternate intro in; it was innovative and very well executed!! The whole thing was really super, Eck. My wife said "Wow!". She's a tough one to please (musically speaking), so good on ya, mate!

Sounded to me like a lot of folks tried to replace the snare with samples, and some of them ran into sync issues. I don't know how to replace something like that, or I might have tried it. How do you do that?

You have no idea how much I wanted to replace the bass part with my OWN bass playing, just to get a clean damned acquisition, but I'm sure that would have violated the rules, so I didn't.
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Cheers dude.
 
Daunt said:
Thanks! I used the 57 and bottom tracks + my own sample. It's mostly the sample you are hearing. I would say that the vocals are the hardest part. Too much stuff going on :)
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snare is too loud at the intro then looses alot of volmue for when the song kickmms in.
Good mix though.
Eck
 
jerberson12 said:
Hiya, I finally come up with my very final last final mix to be posted as a final mix.



Round # 3 ------ Fight!!!!!

AND FINAL MIX!
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bottom end is a bit loose. l;ike your snare asnd kick sampleas./ asl;though i donmt mgmfeel; itas fasir to asdd a different sampleas
 
jerberson12 said:
Hiya, I finally come up with my very final last final mix to be posted as a final mix.



Round # 3 ------ Fight!!!!!

AND FINAL MIX!
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I thought the intro was pretty cool. I like the way this sounds, but I think the 128K MP3 hurts the sound a bit. Can you post a higher bitrate version? There just seems to be something missing from it, and I don't think it's the mix. I think it sounds like it lost some sounds in the MP3 compression. I really like the vocals myself.
Ed
 
I've been looking and looking; I thought I remembered a post that talks more about the song and the band for this PMC; am I on crack, or can I just not find my head if it's not screwed on?

Also, will we eventually hear the final mix/master the band did?
 
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