Proper mic technique for vocals / LD condenser mic??

  • Thread starter Thread starter zip
  • Start date Start date
But mine have less capacitance...........

(oh wait, that's not the good one - I mean mine have more capacity!!!!!!!)

:D :D
 
Yeah, but do you have a guitar strap made entirely of cardboard and duct tape?

Plus, none of my microphones have been up Kelly's butt (that I know of).
 
No, I have one made entirely of DUCT TAPE only!

AND

No mics, but only one of my mic stands has been up Kelly's butt.... seriously -- the whole stand (including the boom) -- it was a sight!

Ha!

:D
 
pull the legs out, strap a motor to his back with a belt connected to the stand, and Kelly would have a propeller for an ass!
 
well, if it's a REAL stand (not a 3-legged type), it would be round at the base. In that case, his ass would be a GRINDER!!
 
Amen, Geeb. Amen, Bruce. Ive been a member of audioforums.com for some time now and this is the first time I ever got into an "I know better than you/my schlitz is bigger, thicker, longer lasting, etc." Hopefully the last time too. Make love not war.
 
That's all fine and good...

...but Vurt wants to know how big your mic is, and if you've stuffed any stands up Kelly's butt also (including the boom!!!)

:D :D

Cheers Gus, welcome aboard! (gets a bit crazy 'round these parts sometimes - especially in the Cave!)

Bruce
:)
 
It seems I have this knack....

....for starting "discussion wars" (see my Greening CD post).;)

Really guys thanks for the help. For clarity I have an AT4033 Cardioid mic so yeah it will have proximity effect. (learned that right on this board...hehe)

I perform lead vocals and my voice is very loud at times (ever hear James LaBrie belt one out??...) so knowing an approximate difference is what I was looking for. I have heard the general setup for vocals on a dynamic is 2 to 3 inches from the pop screen...so I was looking for an approximation for a LDC. It sounds like I should start at about a foot away and adjust accordingly.

I've been singing for some 30 years so I do know about mic / throat position (ie chin up...). All good advice though.

I do agree with Bruce that MORE info is better info. Like I said before I have been singing for 30 years not RECORDING for 30 years. Learning about what makes things "tick" is why I am here. So net - a simple answer is good - but a detailed answer is better !

Thanks for all the replys and help.

lata zip >>
 
Hey Zip...

...if you REALLY wanna get clarity out of that mic of yours - color the windscreen with green marker!

bwa-ha-ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

Bruce
 
Humour...

There is some intelligent humour here then...!

God Bless,


Geeb...
 
LOL Bruce!!!

Actually I took that into account and purchased a green pop filter...the warmth is frickin' incredible!! Had to turn on the AC to keep my soundboard from burning up!!

BTW....I also wear all green attire when I sing .... I've found it's the only way for the warmth to truely radiate from my diaphram..................

........to be continued..........;)

zip >>

ps. Brucie-boy you owe me a beer (green bottled please) !! When I read your reply I spit it up over the whole room...my 5 year old son was looking at me saying "Daddy - it's not good to spit up your beer like that!" Hey - what can I say - I taught him WELL.....
 
YOU ALL MUST FORGIVE BLUE BEAR!

He quite enjoys a good written battle while berating some unfortunate
sole who does not share his expert advice or narrow minded position.

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GET HIM STARTED...

Ask him a medical or law question.

BRUCE,

My arm hurts when I...

PEACE

do you smell that?
 
Do you have a JPEG of that you could post.....not that Id wanna se it...uh....nevermind....
 
For what its worth, I enjoy discussions on both the "hows" and "whys". I also miss Ed's (Sonusman) very nice posts on both. Even if I don't always agree with a poster's opinions I usually find the rationals for them interesting if nothing else.
I've seen some very good posts by Bruce, and hope I will continue to. And he can type them in green if he wants...
 
RWhite said:
For what its worth, I enjoy discussions on both the "hows" and "whys".
Click to expand...
Then why the hell hasn't anybody else pointed out that Blue Bear was absolutely correct about "proximity effect"?

It doesn't make a darn bit of difference if the mike is a small condensor, large condensor, dynamic, or a ribbon - "proximity effect" is a function of the pattern, with the "effect" being strongest in Figure 8, then Hyper-Cardioid, then Cardioid, then Omni mode (having none).

Proximity effect can be used to give a nice boost to the voice, but it will also boost ANYTHING that gets too close, including acoustic guitars.

It's caused when the sound from the front is much louder then the sound getting into the back of the mic (which is how a cardioid works). It only occurs when you're in the mic's near field. All pressure gradient mic designs exhibit "proximity effect" to some degree, while a true pressure mic (omni) will not.

Again it has nothing to do with whether the mic is a small diaphragm condensor, large diaphragm condensor, dynamic, ribbon, or plasma modulated. It's a function of the chosen pattern. There is a way to lower proximity effect in cardioid mics (EV's "Variable D" design, for example), but a simple bass roll-off switch works about as well.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top