Professional Setup (only serious replies please)

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If I had that $, I'd get RME ADIs for converters, an Octomic or two for general purpose pres, some schmantzy pres, good mics and a pair of Mackie HR824s.

You won't need an external mixer.
 
livilaNic said:
I'll do what ever the fuck I want.

I just didn't understand someone thats going to be spending 15k would plug something in and touch the other end. 15k is alot of money. I don't think you have it anyway. Get 15k before you ask to waste peoples time explaining something you will never do anyway.

*No need to reply this is my ego writing, after all I am a guitarist*
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Your true obtuseness shows here. If you feel that I will be wasting your time or that I am a liar, then you simply don't have to click the reply button its not a mandatory thing.
 
apl said:
If I had that $, I'd get RME ADIs for converters, an Octomic or two for general purpose pres, some schmantzy pres, good mics and a pair of Mackie HR824s.

You won't need an external mixer.
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Thank you apl. I wil look into th RME ADIs and the an Octomic. I also heard good things about the Mackie HR824s, as a matter of fact I was going to pick them up when I bought the equipment I have now. Are there any other monitors you would recommend?


Thanks
 
iproduce said:
Thank you apl. I wil look into th RME ADIs and the an Octomic. I also heard good things about the Mackie HR824s, as a matter of fact I was going to pick them up when I bought the equipment I have now. Are there any other monitors you would recommend?


Thanks
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These Events are supposed to be pretty good, too. The nice thing about the Mackies is that they're popular even in pro studios.

My uncle-in-law has a small studio in Nashville, Red Barn Studios, across the parkway from what used to be Opryland.
 
iproduce said:
Your true obtuseness shows here. If you feel that I will be wasting your time or that I am a liar, then you simply don't have to click the reply button its not a mandatory thing.
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Thx, for the heads up coach!
 
Yeah my bad. I felt like being funny and took it out on you. Then I was confonted with my ignorance. I felt attacked and continued the selfishness.


I understand that what I said was off topic and out of line.

I'll try not to let it happen again. Hope you get everything your looking for.

Once again I'm sorry,
livilaNic
 
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Oh yeah I forgot to mention also.

I have the Tascam FW-1884 and I'm using it with Cubase SX. There is currently a beta driver available from Tascam that allows the 1884 full functionality with SX. Up until then we had to run it as a Mackie Controller.
It works well and I've never had any major issues. The pre's are pretty neutral, but you probably would want to use some external ones. I've been looking at the Maudio Octane as it has 8 pres that I can hook up to the 1884 through the lightpipe connector.

I also have the Event ASP8's. Believe the reviews that you have read. They are an awesome set of monitors.

Dave
 
iproduce said:
First thanks for replying. Anyway, this is not something I just started to do this year. I've been messing around and recording alot maybe a good 2 years but thats not including big hardware. Just basic stuff like small mixers, you know the basic setup. So I'm not just basicly going to be mixing and recording songs being clueless. Maybe I've should have said that sorry if I've caused any confusion.

As far as plugins, its to my understanding that they are very expensive. In the $15,000 budget I wish not to include them if theres no room, lets say the $15,000 is hardware wise, but I will not over look the plugins. Currently I own Cubase SX 2. I have also had experiences with ProTools but that was elsewhere. As far as the Mic goes we have a $500 dollar mic, I forget the name. The results from it was not bad at all, I think problems from it came either through my bad mixer, soundcard or bad enviorment.

I have all my production equipment, all that I need now. I guess all I am really looking for is a good mixer of some sort, a good audio interface, preamp, very good monitors, maybe a good microphone, and of course a computer. I know the equipment doesn't make the quality of the song, but bad equipment can have an effect on it.
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I think I miss understood you orignal post. I thought you were trying to finance an entire studio from scratch for 15k. I take it you just need a decent mixer and pre-amps and the such.

The Tascam mixer is nice. It has an interface built in, so it's one less thing you need. As far as pre-amps the, I like the RNP by FMR. They make the more popular RNC compresser. The RNP sounds really good and it very affordable at around $450.

-braldy
 
I'm running an FW1884 with Sonar 3.1.1 PE and it works great. the Sonitus and Cakewalk plugins will get you a long way. Got a FMR RNP and a Sytek 4 channel that I'm using on channels 1-6. V-amp in 7-8. I'd like to get an good 8 channel converter with ADAT out at some point to bypass the pres on the 1884 but it sounds excellent as it is just running through the inputs with the trim turned down. Mics: NTK, At4040, MXL603, Behringer B2, MD441, SM57, SM58, SM77. PC: 3.0 P4, 1 gb ram, 2 120 gig hardrives, 17" LCD. Way less than $15,000. I believe I could record a very decent demo on my setup...plenty good enough to submit to a record company if necesary. Maybe even good enough to send to a mastering house if I really knew what I were doing. :D
 
If I were you I'd get a Mac G5 ($2500), an external 400GB USB hard drive ($350.-, mandatory as a backup solution -- you don't wanna lose everything you ever recorded, and your projects are portable to other studios), Logic 7 (some hundred buxx), a Neumann TLM 127 ($1,400; a decent multi-pattern mic and you have the WOW-effect if your rappers/singers see the logo), a Langevin Dual-Vocal Combo ($1,600), Genelic monitors, an EMU 1840m sound card ($399), a decent analog mixer (Allen & Heath 16:2, Mackie Onyx with 16ch, Soundcraft or sth along that line) a bunch of decent dynamic mics, and maybe an OctoPre or something along that line for the dynamic mics. And a few rack-mounted power power conditioners (cheapo Furman or so with rack lights). That should cover your needs. Keep in mind that Logic 7 comes with a bunch of bass-ass VST synths and a good drum machines, so you might wanna add a MIDI keyboard ($200) to control/play the synths.

An alternative solution would be the Digi 002 and the Digi Control, which includes Pro Tools "light", but that's another story I don't wanna get into.

With that setup you'd even have a LOT of spare money for cables, mic stands, an Auralex acoutisc treatment kit, and other stuff you might need. If you get stuff off Ebay (such as the mixing board) you can save a lot of money.

In the end it boils down to your specific needs and personal taste. Hard to give good advice.
 
Hey thanks all.. All plans look nice to me.. Im still doing research. Hey by the way on my search for good equipment and etc, someone recommend me the Digital 8 Bus from Mackie. Does anyone know anything or had experience with this? I went to Mackie website I found it, I remember seeing it before but I didnt pay much attention to it.
 
moskus said:
Hi! I just stopped by to say: EMU is still not famous for making quality drivers...

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Works fine for me. No more problems than with other drivers I've had to use.
 
My .02 on monitors: I like both Genelecs and Mackie 824's, they both sound great. But if you're gonna be doing Hip Hop/R&B, you'll want bass. The Mackies deliver a nice bass - supposedly down to 39Hz. You might also want to consider a dedicated sub, which I believe most people who mix Hip Hop use. Maybe something like the Mackie HRS120, which is designed to pair with the 824's.

Also, Neumann mics are amazing, and they do give you that prestige. If your main recording focus is vocals, think long and hard about a Neumann.
 
do you want it to be computer based,,,, depending on what you want there are some very different approaches.....if you do want computer based, you said you had pro tools experience,,,theres got to be a reason why so many top 40 song are made on pro tools...its works
 
Your original question was mostly about equipment, but have you put aside money for construction or acoustic treatment, or do you already have all of that?
 
reshp1 said:
Your original question was mostly about equipment, but have you put aside money for construction or acoustic treatment, or do you already have all of that?
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Yes, all that is handled. Like I said before this is just my budget for recording equipment and things in that nature.
 
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