problems problems and mo problems

[~King_Of_Foolz~]

ok guys.. i got a bit of a problem... (excuse my ignorance beforehand)
i record through an apex large diapragm condensor and an art tube mic pre... soundcards one of the creative audigiy deals..and for the purposes of posting the results on dmusic mix it to an mp3. now heres the catch.. when anyone streams anything on lofi all they hear is anything that wasn't recorded through the mic... anything that was DI'd comes hrough fine.... now i know Lofi sounds pretty crummy but not to the point where you cant hear the guitar at all rite?

http://strum.dmusic.com/

all of the first 2 tracks on that list have that problem. the rest of em were recorded before i had this equipment so no problems there... but the quality sucked anyhow.. if anyone knows how i can fix this.. or knows what the problem is please let me know... any help is appreciated.. thanx in advance..

 

[Farview]

Low FI is in mono. You have a phase cancelation problem. Did you do something to make the guitar sound stereo? Something like copy the track and invert the phase? Go back into the session and pan the acoustic guitar tracks to the center, they will disapear.

 

[~King_Of_Foolz~]

yah lofi on dmusic is 24kbps mono.. eyuck.. but nehow.. making the guitar stereo would involve more than one mic.. or.. one of those mics with two heads... i only got one mic.. and to my knowledge havnt done anything to make them stereo... phase reversal or otherwise.. and the acoustic is dead center... thats how i prefer them.. dang.. i'll check through everything again.. but thanx a lot farview.. appreciate it..

 

[RAMI]

Like Fairview said, it seems to be a phase problem. If you say that anything that was recorded through the mic disappears, it could be that you had a lot of leakage going on. So maybe there was enough guitar coming into the vocal mic and/or vocals going into the guitar mic to cause a phase problem too.

 

[Farview]

How did you hook the mic up? To what?

It would take a real comedy of errors, but if you managed to get half the balanced signal to the left and the other half to the right, that would do it.

If you only had 1 mic, I assume you panned the track to the center. If it was a mono track, this could not have happened.

 

[~King_Of_Foolz~]

Ok i've got the mic hooked up to a art mp mic pre.... then into my soundcard.. but i think i might had found something ... when i record and it shows up on the cool edit pro capture screen it shows up as left and right channels... mebe if i change the recording input to mono into the program and then later play with the pan settings I.e add two of the same track one panned left and one panned right... thus createing the illusion of stereo.. i'll give it a try.. i got to thinking though... if you need 2 or more mics for it to be stereo.. when they mic vox in a studio.. for the most part its one mic... hows that get to be "stereo" .?

 

[Farview]

Vocals are in mono. 1 mic = mono. Sometimes the double the vocal (sing it twice) and pan that.

Just because something is coming out of both speakers doesn't make it stereo. Stereo is created (in most cases) by a bunch of mono tracks panned across the stereo field. If you have one mic on one instrument, it's mono. Copying a mono track and panning the two is the same as having the mono track panned to the center.
mono track panned to the center = same thing comes out of both speakers

2 mono tracks panned wide = same thing comes out of both speakers.

None of this explains how you got one side 180 degrees out of phase on one side.

Are you coming balanced out of the art into a stereo line input? That would do it. You need to get a 1/8 stereo to 2 mono 1/4 adapter.

 

[Adam P]

Are you coming balanced out of the art into a stereo line input? That would do it. You need to get a 1/8 stereo to 2 mono 1/4 adapter.

This is the only plausible reason that I could think of for this situation.

A better solution than the adaptor would probably be to get a better soundcard that has balanced inputs