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zan1976
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yeah, as for the edirol's control panel, already checked that.
all sliders in cubase were also at 0dB.
What you say about the motherboard is interesting, I'll give it a try tomorrow, switching ports, I mean.
What do you mean "software pad is not engaged"?
Finally, the mic is positioned 2 cm from the "headjoint" of the flute, as it is called. It's the part of the instrument that resonates and actually produces the sound (basically, the spot where the airflow hits the instrument). Don't worry, I don't have the mic at the other end, it's not a clarinet, no newbie as far as flutes are concerned (though I wouldn't call myself an expert either).
Thanks for the suggestions, much appreciated! My motherboard is the Gigabyte P67A D3 B3, any idea if this could be the culprit?
all sliders in cubase were also at 0dB.
What you say about the motherboard is interesting, I'll give it a try tomorrow, switching ports, I mean.
What do you mean "software pad is not engaged"?
Finally, the mic is positioned 2 cm from the "headjoint" of the flute, as it is called. It's the part of the instrument that resonates and actually produces the sound (basically, the spot where the airflow hits the instrument). Don't worry, I don't have the mic at the other end, it's not a clarinet, no newbie as far as flutes are concerned (though I wouldn't call myself an expert either).
Thanks for the suggestions, much appreciated! My motherboard is the Gigabyte P67A D3 B3, any idea if this could be the culprit?
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ok, just saw the clarification, too, yeah, the mic is positioned correctly, though I should think it would normally still produce a stronger signal even if it was the other way around!
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zan1976
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Yes, that's the gear, XLR in both ends
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zan1976
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Well, not all of them. But it usually depends on what music they listen to in general. Most flutists though tend to recognize that there are much much heavier players than Anderson, especially jazzists, like Hubert Laws, Frank Wess, Jeremy Steig, Yusef Lateef and Eric Dolphy to name a few.
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zan1976
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Yeah, it's internal all right, it's more like an electronic buzz...
Bobbsy
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Just to eliminate possible causes, does your cable have XLR at both ends and is the phantom power turned on on your interface?
If you can't clip a flute from 2 cm away, something strange is going on! At that range, they're loud!
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zan1976
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yes, xlr both ends, phantom power on
Manslick
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Recheck your soldering and wiring.
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funkyto
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You said, that you have tried with other microphones also, what were they? It can be normal cause this edirol has only 40 db gain, although it should be enough with that t.bone, i used it with fast track which had 48 db and it was ok.
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zan1976
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We have developments, my friends!
I switched usb ports, to one that actually reads "power usb" (go figure) and the signal is much stronger! With gain at 1/4 the flute now goes to -15 db and the noise is not as discernible, although still somewhat of a nuisance. It appears we're on the right track though! It must have been a matter of low power after all, as was suggested by PRHunt.
So, does this sound decent to you? Or should there be more power still? When I recorded at my brother's studio the signal was much stronger, I recorded 15 cm from the mic (he has a sound card which connects to power directly). A power hab was suggested, would it help? What can I do about the noise? It’s like a continuous buzz, could it have something to do with grounding?
I switched usb ports, to one that actually reads "power usb" (go figure) and the signal is much stronger! With gain at 1/4 the flute now goes to -15 db and the noise is not as discernible, although still somewhat of a nuisance. It appears we're on the right track though! It must have been a matter of low power after all, as was suggested by PRHunt.
So, does this sound decent to you? Or should there be more power still? When I recorded at my brother's studio the signal was much stronger, I recorded 15 cm from the mic (he has a sound card which connects to power directly). A power hab was suggested, would it help? What can I do about the noise? It’s like a continuous buzz, could it have something to do with grounding?
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Manslick
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Yes. Try another XLR cable.
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funkyto
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Try with this DPC Latency Checker ,also see if you have wifi on or something like that.
PRHunt
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Something to think about: USB Interfaces « Circuits@Home
Note: I don't own and haven't tried this device personally.
It is a usb isolator and power distribution, so you plug in an external power supply, and you get up to 600ma of power for the peripheral device. It also isolates the peripheral device from the computer ground, which can clean up noise.
In other words, it could provide the power of a hub, with the added benefit of noise rejection.
Note: I don't own and haven't tried this device personally.
It is a usb isolator and power distribution, so you plug in an external power supply, and you get up to 600ma of power for the peripheral device. It also isolates the peripheral device from the computer ground, which can clean up noise.
In other words, it could provide the power of a hub, with the added benefit of noise rejection.
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zan1976
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That's very cool (not very easy on the eye though!
) and I'll probably buy it in the long run but isn't there something else I can do directly in order to reduce ground noise? (assuming that's the source of the noise in the first place) My electric setup is as follows: The PC, the monitors and the screen all go to a power strip which goes to the UPS which goes to the socket. There is a wireless router in the room, should I unplug it while recording? There's also a dimmer but it's turned all the way down while I record. Could these things have an effect? They are both plugged in different sockets. I'm afraid my newbietity is beginning to rear its ugly head...
Thanx again for your time!
PRHunt
I void warranties
Cool word of the day: "newbietity" 
If you are recording in close proximity to your computer, then you are very likely picking up computer fan noise. It will be louder than you think.
Dimmers are also notorious for injecting noise. You would very likely need to turn off any lights that use them at your premises.
You can also experiment with the placement of your interface - move it further from the computer or change the orientation. It would not hurt to turn off the wireless, and temporarily disable the wireless adapter on the computer.
Would you be able to put up a clip to demonstrate the noise?
If you are recording in close proximity to your computer, then you are very likely picking up computer fan noise. It will be louder than you think.
Dimmers are also notorious for injecting noise. You would very likely need to turn off any lights that use them at your premises.
You can also experiment with the placement of your interface - move it further from the computer or change the orientation. It would not hurt to turn off the wireless, and temporarily disable the wireless adapter on the computer.
Would you be able to put up a clip to demonstrate the noise?
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zan1976
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I attached the clip, hope this works. This is with gain at 3/4, just so it can be audible.
As far as fan noise is concerned, I have a fan controller and turn off all fans while recording. So I don't think that's the problem.
And as I said, I have the dimmer turned all the way down. Does this suffice or should I unplug it completely?
As far as fan noise is concerned, I have a fan controller and turn off all fans while recording. So I don't think that's the problem.
And as I said, I have the dimmer turned all the way down. Does this suffice or should I unplug it completely?
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David O'Donnell
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I think PRHunt is onto something. That mic needs 48v phantom power and the USB alone may not be cutting the mustard.