Pro Tools M-powered

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I know very little about Pro Tools an general. My questions:

1. I take it that PT can only use PT files and not one from Cakewalk. Correct?

2. I know that PT mpowered is entry level. Can you open a project from full-blown PT with mpowered? I know you can do the opposite.

3. What comes with basic m-powered as far as plugins?

4. How are the midi feaures?? If they are not good, can I just import Sonar files??

Thanks... :)
 
im bout to buy MP-PT this week, heres some infor on it that might help you, plus a list of its plug ins


Digidesign Pro Tools M-Powered 7 Multitrack Recording Software supports select M-Audio interfaces including Audiophile 192, Audiophile 2496, FireWire 410, FireWire 1814, and Ozonic (one of these devices is required). The world's best-respected and most-used professional digital recording software has been adapted to give you award-winning audio recording, editing, and mixing capabilities and instant compatibility with Pro Tools TDM and LE systems around the world. Features fully integrated MIDI sequencing and readily accepts ReWire output stream directly from applications like Ableton Live for further mixing and processing. Includes Beat Detective LE automatic groove analysis and correction tool for flawless time. Supports Digidesign's Command|8 control surface for hands-on mixing. A huge selection of optional plug-ins and applications are available. Works with Windows XP and Mac OS X (10.4 and up).

Ships with over 30 free plug-ins for controlling EQ, dynamics, effects, and more. You also get Bomb Factory which includes Essential Clip Remover, Essential Correlation, Essential Meter Bridge, Essential Noise Meter, Essential Tuner, BF76, and Funk Logic Masterizer. Also comes with DigiRack, which includes Chorus, Click, DigiReWire, Dither, D-Verb, D-Verb-AS, Dynamics II, EQ II, Flanger, Invert-Duplicate, Mod Delay II, Multi-Tap Delay, Normalize-Gain Change, Ping-Pong Delay, Reverse-DC Removal, Signal Generator, Time Comp-Exp-Pitch Shift, and Trim.

New in Pro Tools M-Powered 7 Software
Digidesign Pro Tools M-Powered 7 software introduces a plethora of new features and enhancements that deliver significantly expanded MIDI and audio recording and editing capabilities, greater mixing power and flexibility, enhanced efficiency, and improved ease of use, providing a new creative environment for the industry-standard digital audio workstation. Pro Tools M-Powered 7 software also adds Pro Tools M-Powered software support for five additional M-Audio peripherals, including ProjectMix I/O, Black Box, Ozone, Mobile Pre USB, Fast Track USB, and Transit.

Advanced MIDI Sequencing Functionality
•New Instrument Tracks combine MIDI and audio capabilities in a single channel strip, simplifying routing for virtual instruments and MIDI sound modules
•Real-time MIDI processing enables control of MIDI quantization, note duration and velocity, transposition, and timing in real time
•Enhanced groove quantization features, including the ability to apply groove template quantization across multiple tracks, add randomization to further humanize the feel of a groove, and apply groove template quantization to incoming MIDI signals
•Sample-based MIDI tracks allow MIDI events to stay locked to time code regardless of session tempo changes
•Zoom Toggle enhancements enable users to quickly toggle between two different user-defined settings in the Edit window, making it easier to work with both MIDI and audio
•Mirrored MIDI editing mode allows adjustments made to one MIDI file affect all existing copies of that region


Additional MIDI improvements, including
•An enhanced Select/Split Notes window enables users to split a MIDI performance into multiple tracks by MIDI note, velocity, duration, or position
•A new Remove Duplicate Notes command allows users to quickly clean up recorded or merged MIDI tracks
•An overhauled Change Duration window offers new legato, overlap correction, and transform sustain pedal features
•The Transpose window now allows users to transpose all notes in octaves and semitone

More Creative Audio Editing and Arranging Features
New Region Groups allow grouping of any combination of audio and MIDI regions, across any number of tracks New Region Looping feature offers an easy way to repeat one or more audio regions, MIDI regions, and Region Groups, speeding up composing and arranging
•Work with REX and ACID audio files-the two most popular audio formats for loops and samples
•Separate on Grid and Separate at Transient functions allow editing of multi-track audio regions simultaneously, based on a grid value or transients in an audio file
•Support for quantizing audio regions according to a grid or groove template
•New "reverse" Strip Silence functionality allows for extracting louder portions of audio tracks

Enhanced Mixing and Processing Capabilities
•Improved host processing efficiency allows you to run more select RTAS effects and instrument plug-ins simultaneously
•Support for up to 10 sends per track increases mixing flexibility and allows larger, more complex mixing architectures
•New support for 32 internal mix busses allows for larger, more complex mixing architectures
•Support for RTAS plug-ins on Aux Inputs and Master Faders on Pro Tools|HD systems allows for improved session transferability between Pro Tools|HD and Pro Tools LE/Pro Tools M-Powered systems
•Send assignments can now be copied or moved across tracks via drag-and-drop
•New Automate All command allows arming automation of all plug-in parameters at once
•An all-new, free Dynamics III DigiRack plug-in (released concurrently with Pro Tools 7 software) allows easy and powerful control of mix dynamics
• EQ III now includes a new filter band-pass solo mode, making it easy to isolate and remove unwanted signals or noise in an audio track
•New Cut, Copy, Clear Special commands allow more refined editing of automation
•Additional software optimizations provide users with a faster, more responsive, and more powerful workstation

Increased Efficiency and Improved Ease-of-Use
•Reorganized Pro Tools menu structure offers streamlined and more logical menu navigation (key commands remain the same)
•New Tool Tips feature adds "rollover" descriptions of objects in the Pro Tools software interface
•Support for dragging and dropping audio, MIDI, REX, and ACID files from the desktop to the timeline
•New Link Track and Edit Selection command allows for quickly applying track-level commands globally across multiple tracks simultaneously
•Support for dragging multiple regions onto a single track simultaneously
• New Find History menu added to the Region List Find command makes Region List searches faster and easier
•Added Duplicate Tracks dialog allows for defining how many tracks, and which track parameters, to duplicate
•Import Session Data dialog now supports importing Markers and Mix/Edit Groups
•New DigiBase improvements include support for working with MIDI files and an added Tempo column to organize and view audio files by tempo
•Red Book audio CDs can now be imported from the DigiBase Workspace on both Windows XP and Macintosh computers
•Support for up to 999 Markers/Memory Locations
•Resizable I/O Setup and Disk Allocation dialogs allow access to more parameters simultaneously
•The Pro Tools software interface now supports the Traditional Chinese language


Additional Options for Pro Tools M-Powered
•Support for five additional M-Audio peripherals with Pro Tools M-Powered software, including ProjectMix I/O, Black Box, Ozone, Mobile Pre USB, Fast Track USB, and Transit.

In addition to the latest Pro Tools M-Powered software, a powerful audio production suite and a collection of valuable plug-ins are included with every Digidesign Pro Tools M-Powered system.

Bomb Factory Plug-ins:
•Bomb Factory BF76 Compressor
•BF Essential Clip Remover
•BF Essential Correlation Meter
•BF Essential Meter Bridge
•BF Essential Noise Meter
•BF Essential Tuner
•Funk Logic Mastererizer


DigiRack Plug-ins:
•1-Band EQ
•4-Band EQ
•Chorus
•Click
•Compressor
•D-Verb
•D-Verb-AS
•DC Offset Removal
•Delay
•DeEsser
•DigiReWire
•Dither
•Duplicate
•Dynamics II
•EQ II
•EQ III
•Expander-Gate
•Extra-Long Delay
•Flanger
•Gain
•Gate
•Invert
•Limiter
•Long Delay
•Medium Delay
•Mod Delay II
•Multi-Tap Delay
•Normalize-Gain Change
•Ping-Pong Delay
•Pitch Shift
•Reverse-DC Removal
•Short Delay
•Signal Generator
•Slap Delay
•Time Comp-Exp-Pitch Shift
•Trim

Additional Bundled Software:
•Ableton Live Digidesign Edition
 
You can open any ProTools session on any other ProTools session. HD, PT-LE, PT-MP, they are all compatible. You need to have the same plugins on all the systems if you want to be completely compatible, but that's not always necessary.

As for using your Cakewalk files, you can't open a cakewalk session on a PT system. Just like cakewalk can't open a Cubase session. You can, however, use the audio files created in any of these systems with any other system.
 
1. I take it that PT can only use PT files and not one from Cakewalk. Correct?
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yes, just PT session files. But that's really true for most programs. They all have their proprietary way of saving. Of course you can bring in any audio file you want though.


2. I know that PT mpowered is entry level. Can you open a project from full-blown PT with mpowered? I know you can do the opposite.
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yes, both systems are completely compatible with each other. You just won't be able to do as much with M-Powered/LE as you would HD/TDM

3. What comes with basic m-powered as far as plugins?
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northern cali summed it up. The biggest downside to those plugins, IMO, is the reverb. They really need to revamp their time based plugins. Also, IMO the new Time Shifter sucks ass

4. How are the midi feaures?? If they are not good, can I just import Sonar files??
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MIDI features have gotten a lot better. I have yet to upgrade to the latest version of PT, but you may like it's newest MIDI features. Of course, remember that PT is and was originally audio based...so it's going to be weaker at MIDI than programs like Logic or DP are. But unless you plan on getting REALLY REALLY advanced at your MIDI sequencing or use MIDI all day long, PT might be fine for you.

btw, if you haven't already looked this over, check it out:
http://protoolsforum.com/ProToolsLE1.html
(hopefully it will be updated soon to include all the other interfaces. We're having server issues....again).
 
bennychico11 said:
...so it's going to be weaker at MIDI than programs like Logic or DP are. But unless you plan on getting REALLY REALLY advanced at your MIDI sequencing or use MIDI all day long, PT might be fine for you.
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I would disagree with this. I use tons of midi on every project and it is every bit as good as SONAR or Logic (both of which I have used extensively). I am currently using PT M-Powered 7.2 and it has worked perfectly. I would agree that before PT 7 midi was slightly weaker in PT but that just isn't true anymore.
This is the case for many apps. People will often say that SONAR and Logic are strong in midi but weak in audio, and vice-versa for PT, but the truth is that all of these apps are gold in the hands of any skilled engineer, or any home-user willing to put in the time to learn how to get the most out of the app. These apps aquired these reps long, long ago and so people assume they still hold true.

Anyway, PT-M-powered can meet all of your needs easily. If you are not use to working in Pro Tools, be prepared to spend some time learnning, because it's UI is not exactly easy to master. (None of the major apps are...they are all very different too which is annoying as hell). I would recommend picking up some tutorial videos and watching the videos available on digi's website for some help.
 
Thanks guys, this is very helpful. I fear change, hold me. :(

I would disagree with this. I use tons of midi on every project and it is every bit as good as SONAR or Logic (both of which I have used extensively).
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This is good to hear. :cool: I use midi a lot, I dont do super-elaborate stuff but I need the usual suspects like quantize. I suppose I could do all midi in Sonar and just import the file, correct? I dont see a need except for time as I may have to learn this program fairly quickly.
 
I use m-powered and am not sure where PT got it's reputation for poor midi functionality. Never had any problems with it. I expect that it used to be poor back in the day and it still has that reputation. I started with version 7.1 and upgraded to 7.3. No complaints on the midi, very program these days should be able to do midi pretty well.
 
Question

Don't want to HiJack this thread, but when I bought my M-Audio 24/96 it came with a ProTools M-Powered CD. I didn't really care too much cause I'm happy with Reaper but I think it'd be nice to at least try it and see.

I tried to install it but it said I need to register my 24/96. I registered the card and it still doesn't work.

Anyone else experience this?

And also, is the 24/96 compatible with Pro Tools HD? Would I be able to run ProTools HD with the 24/96 installed?

The reason I ask is, my friend uses ProTools HD and it'd be nice to be able to open his session files and add some tracks to it and send it back to him. Because he doesn't use Reaper.
 
danny.guitar said:
Don't want to HiJack this thread, but when I bought my M-Audio 24/96 it came with a ProTools M-Powered CD. I didn't really care too much cause I'm happy with Reaper but I think it'd be nice to at least try it and see.

I tried to install it but it said I need to register my 24/96. I registered the card and it still doesn't work.

Anyone else experience this?

And also, is the 24/96 compatible with Pro Tools HD? Would I be able to run ProTools HD with the 24/96 installed?

The reason I ask is, my friend uses ProTools HD and it'd be nice to be able to open his session files and add some tracks to it and send it back to him. Because he doesn't use Reaper.
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First of all, I am using the audiophile 2496 with m-powered and I did not have that issue. You need to make sure that you are using the most recent drivers for the Audiophile though. The drivers that came with the 2496 don't support PT.

The 2496 will ONLY work with PT M-powered, you would not be able to install Pro Tools HD on a machine with only a 2496 because HD is dependent on certain digidesign hardware pci cards. However, session files will open between the two different programs, but you will be limited by PT M-powered's limits on track count, plug-ins, etc. You would be able to open a session he sent you, but any HD plug-ins would not load, and any tracks beyond your track count wouldn't load either. Assuming he sends you something that doesn't hit the max track count (I think it's 32) then you would be able to add tracks and send it back to him just using M-Powered and your M-Audio card.
 
DavidK said:
This is good to hear. :cool: I use midi a lot, I dont do super-elaborate stuff but I need the usual suspects like quantize. I suppose I could do all midi in Sonar and just import the file, correct? I dont see a need except for time as I may have to learn this program fairly quickly.
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Every feature for midi that I used in SONAR I found in PT eventually. If you need to get a project done before you can learn PT's midi than yes, go with SONAR and import the midi files into PT.

You should go to digidesign's website and check out the accelerated videos there. They show you a lot of the basics for midi, including quantize, and also setting up a composition template that is pre-loaded with the samplers and instruments and settings that you use. I found that idea extremely helpful.
 
sonnylarsen said:
First of all, I am using the audiophile 2496 with m-powered and I did not have that issue. You need to make sure that you are using the most recent drivers for the Audiophile though. The drivers that came with the 2496 don't support PT.

The 2496 will ONLY work with PT M-powered, you would not be able to install Pro Tools HD on a machine with only a 2496 because HD is dependent on certain digidesign hardware pci cards. However, session files will open between the two different programs, but you will be limited by PT M-powered's limits on track count, plug-ins, etc. You would be able to open a session he sent you, but any HD plug-ins would not load, and any tracks beyond your track count wouldn't load either. Assuming he sends you something that doesn't hit the max track count (I think it's 32) then you would be able to add tracks and send it back to him just using M-Powered and your M-Audio card.
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Thanks, Sonny that helps a lot.

Gonna go make sure I have the latest drivers and try installing it again.
 
how do you get the latest drivers??

pt is packaged with the audiophile but it doesn't come with the correct drivers?
 
I bought a M-audio firewire solo and needed to download the newest driver from the m-audio website to work correctly with OSX 10.4. It's pretty common for new hardware to need a driver update.
 
scrouch said:
I bought a M-audio firewire solo and needed to download the newest driver from the m-audio website to work correctly with OSX 10.4. It's pretty common for new hardware to need a driver update.
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well that's fantastic!!!1 wouldn't you say


these companies really have their customers in mind...isn't there any standardization in this industry...cotdamnit
 
pacman9000 said:
well that's fantastic!!!1 wouldn't you say


these companies really have their customers in mind...isn't there any standardization in this industry...cotdamnit
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it has to do with software changes. When they mass produce a million boxes of Pro Tools M-Powered and then all of a sudden Mac OS changes from Panther to Bobcat or whatever the hell it's on now...should M-Audio/Digi/Avid come out with another million boxes and say "okay, if you have OS 10.4 buy this box, otherwise if you have 10.5.1 buy this box...unless you're running OS 10.2 then you buy this box."

or would it be much easier to just put a single download on their website and tell people to update their drivers when they buy the product?
think about it. it doesn't have to do with a standardization but rather a way at keeping things simpler for a broad spectrum of customers. it only takes two seconds to update the driver...if it's really that much extra work for you, maybe you should keep away from computers.
 
bennychico11 said:
it has to do with software changes. When they mass produce a million boxes of Pro Tools M-Powered and then all of a sudden Mac OS changes from Panther to Bobcat or whatever the hell it's on now...should M-Audio/Digi/Avid come out with another million boxes and say "okay, if you have OS 10.4 buy this box, otherwise if you have 10.5.1 buy this box...unless you're running OS 10.2 then you buy this box."

or would it be much easier to just put a single download on their website and tell people to update their drivers when they buy the product?
think about it. it doesn't have to do with a standardization but rather a way at keeping things simpler for a broad spectrum of customers. it only takes two seconds to update the driver...if it's really that much extra work for you, maybe you should keep away from computers.
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what about for people who DON'T HAVE THE INTERNET


AND, AND, AND


ALL THE LIBRARY COMPUTERS HAVE VIRUS AND BUGS AND YOU THEY DON'T LET YOU DOWNLOAD TO THEIR HARDRIVE ANYWAY!!! IT IS BLOCKED!...AND MOST OF THEIR FLOPPY DISK DRIVES ARE BROKEN??

DO THE DRIVERS EVEN FIT ON A FLOPPY???








they should atleast package the hardware with a cd of the new drivers, they should require the retailers do it or send it to them, they could standardize it in that way, they should force the retailers to know what they hell they are doing, it's not that hard if you're a retailer and have the net to supply the current drivers that go along with the product you customers are buying.


Also, does softward and hardware need drivers, or just software?

do soundcards have drivers?


I dont get it
 
Forgive me for bargeing in here, but I have some stupid questions....

I used to use Cakewalk 9 & Sonar 2.0 with a Gadget Labs 8 channel sound card. I basicly stopping doing any recording of my own when my band split up a couple of years ago. But recently I've gotton the itch to get back into it.

I had been thinking about what software to use, whether to shell out $$$ for the newest version of Sonar, or to investigate Pro Tools, which seems to be what most "pro" studios are using.

Now I already have a couple of Audiophile 2496 cards I purchased a few years ago. Honestly, I never even looked at the Cds that came with them, I just downloaded the newest drivers and that was it. From what I'm reading here it sounds like I may have a version of Protools on one of those CDs.

So here are my stupid questions:

1) If it turns out I have an old copy of PTools on the CD (need to go looking for it), do I need to register it for it to work? I'm pretty sure I never registered the card(s), never had problems with them.

2) If it turns out I DON'T have it, can you buy the program seperately? Or do I have to buy a new card too?

3) (Dumbest question) If I have a 2496 in a machine, and my Gadget labs card installed also in the same box, will PTools see ONLY the 2496 as a device?
 
pacman9000 said:
what about for people who DON'T HAVE THE INTERNET
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Those people should think about using a hard disk recorder instead of a PC.

Not having the internet in 2007 is like not having a letterbox in 1957
 
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