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Rich606
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I use Slug beaters,and I noticed on my Powerstroke 3. It's developing a small dent. Should I change beaters,or just adjust the head?
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PYRRHO
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Use the reinforcement patch supplied with the Powerstroke.
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fritzmusic
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Well Slug beaters are marketed with "more power" in their official product description, there's part of your answer. I've never had a lack of power with any bass drum pedal or beater. On toms and snare perhaps, but never a bass drum.
A loose drum head will also dent easier than a tight one.
+1 for the impact patch also.
A loose drum head will also dent easier than a tight one.
+1 for the impact patch also.
zacanger
musician and audodidact
Iiiiiimpact patch.
MadAudio
Damned if I do
Technique also comes into play, but it depends on the type of music you're playing. Unfortunately, most drummmers do not release on kick hits. They smack the beater into the head and let it rest there. The kick is a drum like any other - to get the best sound you don't let the beater rest on it and allow the head to achieve resonance. But again, it all depends on the type of music being played.
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Rich606
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I never liked the patch. I tried it. I also play Alternative,and Pop Rock. So not much force is going into my head.
TragikRemix
I am NOT a Gear Whore. ;)
slap the patch on. try a differnt one then.
otherwise, break out the electrical/duct tape.
otherwise, break out the electrical/duct tape.
Blue Groove
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News Flash...
...if you hit a tom head, it will dent, no matter how softly you hit it (unless you *tap* it), if you hit a bass drum head with a hard beater, it will dent, bass drum heads need to be replaced too. Patches alter the sound too much, so much that on a recording it sounds like a completely different drum.
I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, I've worked as a studio drummer and as a studio drum supplier for about nine years in Nashville, Dallas, KC, Oklahoma City, Austin, etc... just replace the head more often if you like the beater. If you can't afford to do that, switch back to a softer beater.
Also as MadAudio said, look at your technique, don't bury it.
...if you hit a tom head, it will dent, no matter how softly you hit it (unless you *tap* it), if you hit a bass drum head with a hard beater, it will dent, bass drum heads need to be replaced too. Patches alter the sound too much, so much that on a recording it sounds like a completely different drum.
I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, I've worked as a studio drummer and as a studio drum supplier for about nine years in Nashville, Dallas, KC, Oklahoma City, Austin, etc... just replace the head more often if you like the beater. If you can't afford to do that, switch back to a softer beater.
Also as MadAudio said, look at your technique, don't bury it.
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Farview
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You have to keep adding duct tape because once you go through the top layer, all the sticky stuff gets all over your beater. The last thing you want is a sticky beater.TragikRemix said:
I'm not sure what patches everyone is talking about, but I have never put on a patch that made the tone change that drastically. (except the danmar pad, but that's made of metal and is supposed to change the sound of the drum) The thin kevlar pads have always done a good job for me.
TragikRemix
I am NOT a Gear Whore. ;)
try using a different head althogether then. i use an emad with an impact pad and i am happy with the sound.
i aint changin bass drum heads too often, $30-40 bucks a pop isnt a fun purchase. i'd rather buy cheap used mics that i dont even need.
i aint changin bass drum heads too often, $30-40 bucks a pop isnt a fun purchase. i'd rather buy cheap used mics that i dont even need.
RezN8
Blick-um, blick-um...
News Flash - Misinformation
With all due respect to your in-depth knowledge and skills, I must disagree with you Blue Groove.
The ONLY time dents appear on tom heads is when people don't know how to hit the drums properly. And believe me, they get hit pretty hard around here.
But I agree with the rest of the info above. If you don't like the sound/feel of a patch/pad where the beater strikes a bass drum, then you should just get in the habit of replacing your heads more frequently.
And just to nail the point home here
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Different types of beaters will give you different results. Using a wooden beater for instance, and digging the beater into the head as part of striking it, will more likely cause a dent. More so than using a felt beater (especially like the low-mass type that come with the Iron Cobra) and letting the beater rebound off the head.
If you must bury the beater, try more than a single-ply drum head, like Bear drumheads, if they still make them.
Blue Groove said:
With all due respect to your in-depth knowledge and skills, I must disagree with you Blue Groove.
The ONLY time dents appear on tom heads is when people don't know how to hit the drums properly. And believe me, they get hit pretty hard around here.
But I agree with the rest of the info above. If you don't like the sound/feel of a patch/pad where the beater strikes a bass drum, then you should just get in the habit of replacing your heads more frequently.
And just to nail the point home here
:Different types of beaters will give you different results. Using a wooden beater for instance, and digging the beater into the head as part of striking it, will more likely cause a dent. More so than using a felt beater (especially like the low-mass type that come with the Iron Cobra) and letting the beater rebound off the head.
If you must bury the beater, try more than a single-ply drum head, like Bear drumheads, if they still make them.
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