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Rokket

Trailing Behind Again
I'm finally happy with the arrangement on this one. Thanks to BentRabbit for the percussion and Anfontan for the awesome guitar work.

Let me know what doesn't sit right.


With You Tonight
 
Listening as I type...

The pick of the acoustic is little much--or is it? I certainly like how up front and present the acoustic sounds--but the scrape of the pick might be a bit much sometimes.

I think you're voice is a bit wet. I'd like to hear it more up front and present like the acoustic. I'd save the affected vox for the background vox.

I really like the bass guitar. Sits in the mix well and just enough motion to help the whole thing move.

All in all, great job with the playing and recording. But more importantly--great songwriting. (Maybe that's why I wanted to hear vox a bit clearer.) Both musically and lyrically--I like this!
 
The upfront accoustic was a tracking error that I am learning to live with. I tried to dial ip back, but the track loses too much presence, so I left it as is.

Thanks for the listen. I'll take some of the verb off the vocals and repost it.
 
Hi Rokket

Please don't take this the wrong way.... but I think you should take those song writing skills and those recording skills and team up with a vocalist. Unfortunately it's your vocals that are holding this song back. Why not start a band... advertise for a singer? I think this song would make great pop with a strong female lead vocal.

Respectfully
Neeps
 
Neeps said:
Hi Rokket

Please don't take this the wrong way.... but I think you should take those song writing skills and those recording skills and team up with a vocalist. Unfortunately it's your vocals that are holding this song back. Why not start a band... advertise for a singer? I think this song would make great pop with a strong female lead vocal.

Respectfully
Neeps
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I don't think a song I wrote for my wife would sound right coming from anyone else, but I understand what you are getting at. I have claimed from the beginning that I am not a singer. I also have no thoughts of doing anything with this other than record for fun.

But thanks for the kind words about my songwriting and recording skills. At least that area is getting better.
 
It's a nice song. You're working with what you have and making a fair fist of it.
I've heard the development in your singing - the work, thinking and recording is paying off and each recorded vocal is better than the last.
I only wish I could sing as well as you. I'm not even allowed to hum around the house. I'm lucky that I have a song writing partner who sings. For a while I had no-one and as a result I'd begin to record projects & they'd fall away as I lost interest through lack of melody & vocal.
I'm quite happy with the pick scrape but then again I like the sound of Richie Valens at Woodstock.
The collaborative elements fit quite nicely.
The vox are a bit wet but I know you're hiding behind theat a bit so I can wear it.
 
Thanks for the listen and kind words. I will see about the wet vocals. I didn't add too much verb on the track, so maybe the mp3 encoding is screwing with it? I'll have to download it and see.
 
I just A/B'd my .wav version of this with the mp3, and I do have too much verb on the main vocal.

Let me fix it and repost tomorrow...
 
Rokket said:
I don't think a song I wrote for my wife would sound right coming from anyone else, but I understand what you are getting at. I have claimed from the beginning that I am not a singer. I also have no thoughts of doing anything with this other than record for fun.

But thanks for the kind words about my songwriting and recording skills. At least that area is getting better.
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Great attitude. I know where you are coming from. It's just me when it comes to this hobby. And I'm trying to get better with my singing, all you can do is keep practicing.

Concerning the mix, I've read the thread and I think, based on this last mix, your addressing some of the things people have brought up and it's pretty much there. Like the sound of the electric guitars! Keep it up.
 
Thanks!

The electric guitars are not me. That's Anfontan. But yeah, it's a slow process of improvement for me. I have been meaning to take some sort of vocal lesson, but I can never find time and opportunity in the same room...
 
This tune has progressed nicely from it's initial stages. Rabbit/Dave's percussion and drumming make a great difference with the dynamics of the song!
I think the lead vocal sounds good-it's just the harmonies are a little off in places. You might try dropping the level on the harmonies-remember they are 'background' vocals and I usually want them to gel with the track-not stand out against the lead vocal-and add a little more reverb to background vocals to blend them in.
The timing of my guitar seems a bit off on certain phrases-let me know if you'd like me to give it another try sometime soon...
 
I'll tweek the backing vocals. I initially had them up and matched volume-wise with the lead vocal, but I guess they are just a tad too loud?

As far as your guitar goes, I moved them around from where you had originally put them in the song, as I could hear it in my head. I could probably shift them around a bit and they would fall in better.

And I could still use that mandolin.... ;)
 
Rokket said:
I'll tweek the backing vocals. I initially had them up and matched volume-wise with the lead vocal, but I guess they are just a tad too loud?

As far as your guitar goes, I moved them around from where you had originally put them in the song, as I could hear it in my head. I could probably shift them around a bit and they would fall in better.

And I could still use that mandolin.... ;)
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If you can send an MP3 of the current mix the mandolin should fit in very nicely.;) Maybe some dobro too!:D
 
Anfontan said:
If you can send an MP3 of the current mix the mandolin should fit in very nicely.;) Maybe some dobro too!:D
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You should be able to right-click and save this one. I believe it's a 192kbps mp3...


Unless you want a higher bit rate?
 
Rokket said:
You should be able to right-click and save this one. I believe it's a 192kbps mp3...

Unless you want a higher bit rate?
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Ok it's downloading now-it will do fine at 192...I'll try to get something together this week.;)
 
Overall the track seems a little thin, due to the two main instruments, Lead Vox and Acoustic Gtr.

The AccGtr sounds like the strings are being picked 1/4 inch from the bridge. No Balls. You need some lower frequencies, whether it come form miking closer to the soundhole or just not cutting the lows/low mids so much in the mix.

Males vocals get most of their body from the 100-300 Hz range. There's not any here? It did get recorded, I know it. Don't chop that out with the idea of cleaning up the bottom. The Vox are the song. Those freq's have to stay. Cut out 100Hz down, if you want to, but leave the low mids.
 
loudsongs said:
Overall the track seems a little thin, due to the two main instruments, Lead Vox and Acoustic Gtr.

The AccGtr sounds like the strings are being picked 1/4 inch from the bridge. No Balls. You need some lower frequencies, whether it come form miking closer to the soundhole or just not cutting the lows/low mids so much in the mix.

Males vocals get most of their body from the 100-300 Hz range. There's not any here? It did get recorded, I know it. Don't chop that out with the idea of cleaning up the bottom. The Vox are the song. Those freq's have to stay. Cut out 100Hz down, if you want to, but leave the low mids.
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I didn't cut any of the low mid below 100hz.... :rolleyes:

I just have a really thin, useless singing voice.... :D

I did some really severe cutting on the acoustics because I had the mics too close to the damn guitar when I tracked it. That's why it sound like I was playing at the bridge. And that's why there is so much pick noise on the tracks. If I could, I would retrack. But the wife has my studio out of commission while we are repairing a plumbing issue... :(

Thanks for the listen, and I'll see what I can do to bring things back into perspective. Perhaps when the mando and dobro are added.
 
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