Possibly the next great midrange pre

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Ok, I get then here and no one really has any questions?
SOmething I am wondering... you can have an instrument and a mic simultameously... is there a seperate out for each or are they blended somehow?
 
tubedude said:
Ok, I get then here and no one really has any questions?
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I posted this earlier:

what is an ideal load for an sm57 or a ribbon mic? Low or high?

Now you mentioned something about a chart you're putting together. Does that mean you're going to have like a master list that says something like : sm57, 58, etc. = set it on this load, and Rode NT1, NT2, etc. = set it on this load. and so on?
 
Welcome Paul at Summit Audio :)

How does the variable impedance of your preamp differ from the "current sensing" inputs of the JoeMeek pre's? It seems to me in my ignorance that this (current sensing) is another name for the same type of thing. The input circuitry senses how much current (somehow) is optimal for the mic to put out, and then adjusts the impedance to match it. Of couse it sounds like your pre is manually adjustabe, so that you can vary the sound characteristics of the mic by adjusting the load it sees. That sounds like a great feature to have!

Thanks for any insight you might have on this.
 
One other question from me... what is the targeted street price on this?
 
Well that was rather frustrating, I just typed in a long reply and it was lost somewhere out in the ether I guess. Oh well, I'll do it again.

First off, thank you for the opportunity to talk with you all about this new product. I promise not to inundate the list with marketing junk. I'll just answer your questions as best as I am able.

The mic and instrument (or line level) inputs can be used at the same time and are blended through the same output (s). They have individual input level controls (Hi-z and Line level use the same control) to get relative levels, then there is a master output level for the vacuum tube output.

We are developing a chart with the most common microphones to show their 'preferred' input impedance. This is a rather daunting task as there are SO many mics out there right now. It may turn into a web list as well so that it can be dynamic.

I don't know how the Meek's input sensing works but we decided to make it completely variable on the input so that you can use it as an effect as well. Each microphone can then give you a multitude of sounds. I love that idea. I will give you more empirical evidence after I get a chance to use one in a session, presumable this week actually.

The targeted street price is about $590 USD, the list price is $695.
 
Paul
Thanks for your prompt response. We'll be looking forward to reports of your hands-on experiences with the unit.

Sorry about the loss of your post - we've been dealing with this for the last few weeks - some kind of server overload that is supposed to be corrected soon.
 
Thanks, Summit.

I'm assuming this isn't going to be one of those "starved plate" designs, is it?
 
From RAP:Hello everyone, I noticed a few questions about the new 2BA-221 from
Summit Audio. If you have any specific questions I will be happy to
answer as best as I am able.

One question is what this thing is going to sound like. We are NOT
competing with the ART range. This new line of products from Summit
Audio are far from cheap; by making them smaller, using a universal
chassis, and a few other non-audio related ways we are able to make
them less expensive, but not cheaper at all. We use many of the same
parts between the different lines here; Neutrik, Burr Brown, Bournes,
etc. These units still have the comprehensive three year warranty that
all Summit Audio products come with.

With the completely variable input microphone impedance, tons of
simultaneous outputs, sweepable HPF, Hi-Z/Line and Mic inputs that are
available at the same time, stacking in and out for use as a 'mixer',
the 2BA-221 certainly runs the gamut on features. It will, or course,
sound great!
 
I have a question too. Is this going to be released on time or are you guys going to yank us arround like FMR, PMI Etc...?

It seems like 6 monthes since the Studio Projects and the RNMP were promised and sooner or later Im going to blow my cash on something else.
 
Will the Pre be sold at regular retail outlets such as Sammy's/
musiciansfriend??
 
Funny Darrin, I don't ever remember hearing a promised release date for the RNMP.

If you need a pre now get a pre now.

Mr McQ is one rad mofo, I like his work and how he does business. If you're sick of waiting for the RNMP, it'll just be one less person on the waiting list.

-Jett
 
The 2BA-221 will probably be available in about a month, maybe mid August or so. Released 'on time'? Well, it won't be released until it's perfect. When designing new products you just can't tell until you have it all together and you can listen. Running everything on the Audio Precision test equipment is great and useful but it's always about the qualitative tests. Unfortunately I can commiserate with those companies that are late with product. Everything on the PCB can look perfect but after it's together it can sound horrible. Personally, I'd rather wait and make sure it's actually a great product before I ship it!

The 2BA-221 will be available at all of our normal dealers, although we don't sell through the big chain stores (Sam Ash, Guitar Center, etc.). If you are wondering about a specific dealer or a particular area of the world, just contact me and I'll let you know where you can find them (or any other Summit Audio products). sound@summitaudio.com
 
I'm looking at picking up a pair of Sank modded Beyer M-260DX mics. Hows the gain on these bad boys? Good match for low output ribbon mics?
 
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