phantom power

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marshall.amps said:
I know i was just kidding i typed that that way on purpose and i hate ghetto street talk or what ever you wana call that crap.
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Yeah, and if a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass a-hoppin'. :mad:

Who's the bigger fool, me or you? :rolleyes:
 
I think I've been had.

Ed Rei, is that you? Or ez_Joe havin' some fun?
 
Condenser mics needs Phantom Power (+48 Volts DC) for two reasons:
1 - to power the internal pre-amp
2 - to charge the capacitor. (In England, Condenser mics are known as Capacitor mics)

ECM (electret condenser mics) use a "dialectric substance" to charge the capacitor, but they still need phantom power to power the pre-amp. Some of the little Sony Mini-Disc mics are ECM mics that run off a AA battery.

There are mics (such as the AKG C1000) that will run off of a 9 Volt battery (does not supply full 48 V, but that's okay) and do not need external Phantom Power.
 
NO - I have NO spelling skills.
KNOW - I do not KNOW how to spell.

That is all...
 
some condensers are battery powered (ie shotgun mics) and therefore don't need phantom power
 
marshall.amps said:
jesus christ you guys realy take spelling seriously around here dang
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We take COMMUNICATION seriously around here.

If you can't spend the time and effort to make your posts easy to read, then why the hell should we take the time and effort to help you understand stuff?

Poorly written posts tell me that the person behind them is not investing any time or effort into this and just wants to be spoon-fed. That doesn't fly around here.
 
ummm, when you write
yea yea i no its expensive i have been on zzounds.com i no its expensive and i no u spent years doing this im not that stupid
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, it takes a little while to understand what you're saying because of the differences between NO and KNOW (similar with TO,TWO, and TOO)
So it takes me longer to understand the sentence, and it makes it harder to help you.

If you wrote
Yeah, I know it's expensive. I have been on zzounds.com and I know it is expensive, and I know you spent years doing this; I'm not that stupid
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, my head wouldn't hurt as much!

If you can't take the effort to type out a proper sentence (which shouldn't be hard), then I won't take the effort to help you. I will take the time to point out your spelling mistakes, because I see our language going down the toilet.

You're welcome!

marshall.amps said:
pff you can read what im typing just fine
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Farview said:
Ribbon mics are not that common, they are more of a specialty item. You don't buy pro audio equipment at Target, Best Buy, Circuit City, etc...

That one is probably an electret. (a form of dynamic)
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Actually an Electret is a Form of Condenser mic... It needs the Electret Diaphram Charged and it has an Internal Fet that also needs power, Electrets don"t need as Much power as Most Condensers but they still need from 1v to 10v of power to run......

Also Phantom power is generally 48v but there are some Portable mixers that have 12v and 24v Phantom but not all Mics will run on this Limited Power supply....

Phantom power will not harm most mics if wired correctly but if your Phantom power somehow Fails and the Voltage increases you could Burn out a Condenser which I rescently did when my 48v Phantom power regulator Blew and started pumping close to 75v into my Mic which Fried the element....


Cheers
 
zekthedeadcow said:
some condensers are battery powered (ie shotgun mics) and therefore don't need phantom power
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shotguns use 48V phantom power....they are typical condenser mics.

perhaps you are thinking of electret condensers like lavalier microphones...these don't require a polarizing voltage, although typically will have a batter pack with them for use as a preamp and wireless transmitter.
 
bennychico11 said:
shotguns use 48V phantom power....they are typical condenser mics.

perhaps you are thinking of electret condensers like lavalier microphones...these don't require a polarizing voltage, although typically will have a batter pack with them for use as a preamp and wireless transmitter.
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See my earlier post where I site the AKGC1000. It's a condenser that can get it's phantom power from the batteries, that's how they work. ECMs still require phantom power, but can get it from the battery. I'm sure there are shotgun's out there that can draw phantom power from a battery. It's not full 48 V, but it still works.
 
RAK said:
See my earlier post where I site the AKGC1000. It's a condenser that can get it's phantom power from the batteries, that's how they work. ECMs still require phantom power, but can get it from the battery. I'm sure there are shotgun's out there that can draw phantom power from a battery. It's not full 48 V, but it still works.
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my point was that a shotgun still needs a power source...it's a condenser. Most commonly used shotguns receive 48V direct from a mixer, unless you're using a mixer that doesn't have 48V, and therefore you'd use some sort of power supply source.
it's still considered phantom power no matter what you're using (48V or 9V) since "phantom" just implies that it's just invisible to other microphones not needing the extra voltage.
 
bennychico11 said:
my point was that a shotgun still needs a power source...it's a condenser. Most commonly used shotguns receive 48V direct from a mixer, unless you're using a mixer that doesn't have 48V, and therefore you'd use some sort of power supply source.
it's still considered phantom power no matter what you're using (48V or 9V) since "phantom" just implies that it's just invisible to other microphones not needing the extra voltage.
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This is from the spec page of the AKG C100S:

Supply voltage 9 to 52 V phantom power to DIN 45596 or internal 9 V battery (6F 22) .

Also this is on the main page:

Can be powered by internal 9 V battery or by phantom power (9-52 V DC)

So it seems they're differentiating between phantom power and the power supplied by a battery. I would have said that the battery supplies the phantom power, but perhaps this is not the case. Either way the important part of all of this is that condenser mics need power for the pre-amp and to charge the capacitor, and that they can get that power from different sources (dialectric substance, batteries, onboard phantom power, and let's not forget Tube condenser's)

Someone apparently thought I was making things complicated, not sure who. I didn't mean to complicate things, and the way I read the posts Benny and I were saying the same things. "whatevs"
 
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I would have said that the battery supplies the phantom power, but perhaps this is not the case.
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Yeah, not all microphones need a total of 48V. The microphone takes what it needs...48V is just what is offered usually. According to this link, it looks like most of the AKG microphones only need 9V, so that makes sense why the battery doesn't have to exceed a 9V. If a mixer with 48V is not available, it'll gladly take the voltage from a battery.

Someone apparently thought I was making things complicated, not sure who. I didn't mean to complicate things, and the way I read the posts Benny and I were saying the same things. "whatevs"
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sorry about that man...wasn't me though. we were pretty much just agreeing with eachother.
 
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