Partition and OS

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Stealthtech

LOGIC ABUSER
This is a task I plan to execute soon...

Specs: ASUS CLUS2 mobo
Coppermine PIII 800mhz
2 7200 20gb WD HD's 1 dedicated to audio
Logic Platinum
Soundforge
Cool edit
T-racks
WIN98se

I plan to reformat primary C:
Dump WIN98se
Using partition magic to create a 14-6 split for dual boot system
Installing WIN2k twice on both partitions
OS 1 for normal use Office,Games, etc...
2nd OS with Logic and audio apps. ONLY
Slave will still be audio only

If anyone can think of a problem with this
Or feel there is a better way
Feel free to post you reply

I still have some time to re-evaluate

Thanks, Stealth
 
I seriously don't get why people continue to think this somehow improves performance...

I have one OS (XP), one huge partition on each of my two drives and use my computer for everything (DAW, 3D modelling, video capture, Office, Internet, games...) and everything works just fine!

Why waste all that HD space with a second installation of the same OS?

Dumb programs still can cause problems. You will have 2 Program Files dirs and some programs are not smart enough ro distunguish between the Prog File dir of the different OS's. If you overwrite something from the other OS you will corrupt data or the OS itself and be S.O.L.
 
Thx for your reply brzilian,

I understand what your saying as this is what I have been doing with no real problems using WIN98.
The downside of this is in relation to your pro soft and hardware is the possible conflict of other programs, drivers,hardware settings, swap files,etc....

Here are some articles to read if you like:
http://www.sospubs.co.uk/

http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/articles/45BEB3250308114E86256A7F007D8FA4[/url][/url]
http://community.sonikmatter.com/emagic/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=25;t=000462
 
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I still prefer to Dual Boot. It has advantages for organization as well as if some program decides to mess up one boot, you still have some recourse. I've never had a problem with software installing on the wrong OS. You can hide the OS's from each other if you like. A less bloated piece of software is masterbooter. I wrote up a quick instruction page if your interested in using it instead of partition magic.

www.sigmacomputers.on.ca/dualboot.html
 
You really don't need two Win2k installations. I mean if you're really set on it then go for it...but you might just want to give a standard installation a shot first. This isn't Win9x anymore.

One partition for the OS and one for Audio is certainly a good way to go. Much easier to wipe the OS if necessary, and it makes defragging the audio partition that much faster.

Slackmaster 2000
 
Slackmaster2K said:
You really don't need two Win2k installations.

Slackmaster 2000
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I'm afraid I must disagree. They/You may not, but I do!

:)
 
Emerics masterbooter works very well. But microsoft supports dual boot with Win 2K,NT, and XP already; no other software necessary. See the article in the March issue of Smart Computing. www.smartcomputing.com

Twist
 
Stealthtech said:
Thx for your reply brzilian,

I understand what your saying as this is what I have been doing with no real problems using WIN98.
The downside of this is in relation to your pro soft and hardware is the possible conflict of other programs, drivers,hardware settings, swap files,etc....

Here are some articles to read if you like:
http://www.sospubs.co.uk/

http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/articles/45BEB3250308114E86256A7F007D8FA4[/url][/url]
http://community.sonikmatter.com/emagic/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=25;t=000462
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There is nothing in these articles that actually gives a reason for 2 Win2k installations on the same computer. They only discuss Win2k/98 dual boot scenarios.

I fail to see the relevance of your post.
 
Perhaps I'll go with XP and just 1 OS, no dual boot.
If all my links would have worked you could have read a little more.......oh well.......anyway, thats why I posted this post to get this kind of input. As I said I'm still trying to decide.
 
Dual Boot, it's the wave of the future.

Seriously, it has its advantages. The naysayers above can do what they like. :)
 
I hear ya Emeric
I think I have read enough on this that makes me lean that direction
 
Slackmaster2K said:
You really don't need two Win2k installations.
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I can agree to this. I mean, you have to be doing some insane stuff to warrant such a extreme redundant solution.

I'm, unless your constantly downloading demo's, installing and/also uninstalling software, opening all your email attachments and screwing around with registry... there really isn't a need for that.

One installation of W2K/XP and some practical maintanece/safe keeping should keep you going with no problems.
 
I am constantly downloading demos and installing/uninstalling software. My OS drive is teetering at only 1GB free space, so every new game I install requires that I uninstall a bunch of stuff. Then a few weeks ago while looking for an avi-to-mpeg2 converter I must've installed about 15 demo applications and then subsequently uninstalled most of them. Stuff like that is pretty typical for me; in fact my machine is a total mess, but I still don't feel it's necessary to run multiple 2K installations.

Slackmaster 2000
 
I think the only issue would be one of registry entries. I was fiddling with my registry today and came across a slew of entries from software that I unstalled long ago. The problem is the developers don't make their uninstallers actually uninstall completely. I'm just uncertain as to the long term impact, if any, of having tons of registry entries. I would guess application load times and system bootup will slow down, but it doesn't seem like actual application performance should be affected.
 
It's not so much the number of registry entries. I'm sure the regisry is indexed well enough that it can grow quite large without much impact on performace.

The danger is...well...how about an example: Adaptec EZCD Creator 4 installed its own CDROM driver in place of the standard Windows 2000 CDROM driver. This is done in Win2k by pointing a couple registry keys at the alternate driver. Now the problem was that the Adaptec uninstaller would delete the driver file, but it wouldn't remove those registry keys pointing to the file, and when Windows 2000 was rebooted after the uninstallation....boom. Blue screens of death, missing CDROM drives, etc etc. Luckily the fix was to simply boot to save mode and delete the appropriate registry keys, but it still sucked.

Slackmaster 2000
 
With Windows 98 there is good logic in using a dual-boot, since it is much easier for idiot programs to overwrite system files (like DLLs) and just generally muck up the registry. And there is good reason for a Win2000/Win98 dual boot since 2000s compatibility with "home" software (like games) is pretty weak. But I'm not sure a dual 2000 or dual XP setup makes sense, the newer systems should be more forgiving. However I'll say up front I'm still getting my feet wet with XP, I know how its supposed to work on paper but my "hands on" is limted.

Incidently, I'm getting ready to take my MCP cert in Win XP soon, and the more I read about XP the more impressed I am. Whether all the cool stuff about it on paper translates to reality, I'll have to leave open for now.
 
Emeric said:
Dual Boot, it's the wave of the future.

Seriously, it has its advantages. The naysayers above can do what they like. :)
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Ok, vague comments and ambiguity do nothing for your credibility. Care to back up your above statements with some kind of facts?
 
'Credibility'

I'm not watching the polls... sorry. I'm just one of the thousands of members on this BBS and one of the millions on the internet.

Anyway.

I was just joking with Slack and you. But , I guess the humor gets lost fast.

Using a single OS may work fine for some, maybe most. I do my recording on the OS that I also surf the web with, video game, etc. I havn't run into problems.

This is one example of why I dual boot. I'm using two different versions of Nuendo. I started a project with a customer using 1.2. I dedicate an OS boot to him, I don't have to worry about it getting messed up, and can continue using version 1.2. The other OS uses version 1.5 (my projects). 1.5 does not properly import 1.2 projects.

If, heaven forbid. One of my OS's went down (It happens, even in W2K), I have some recourse, I can uninstall certain app's from the working OS and install whatever is needed, faster.

I like to try out plug-in's, other audio product demo's etc. I do that on MY partition, not the partition I use for other people.

Call it piece of mind (great Boston song), or paranoia. Whichever.

But, either way. I find it useful. Not looking for converts here, do as you please.
 
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