Overhead and Hi-hat mic

[chingon]

I have around a $250-$300 budget to buy some overhead mics and a hi-hat mic. I can get a used matched pair of MC012 for $250 and wait a few months for a hi-hat mic .Is that a good deal?
What could I use for Hi-mic?
thanks

 

[BradD]

I don't record drums myself, but I don't think that many people mic the hat individually. Personally, if I was going to mic drums, I'd keep it simple. I'd use four mics. 2 overheads, snare and kick.

 

[tntkemp]

I agree. I mic with two MC-012's overhead, one on the bass drum, and one on the snare drum. I do also usually mic the upper toms with one mic, and the floor Tom with another, but in reallity, the MC-012's setup in an X pattern, pick up all of the cymbals, including Hi Hat, plus the Toms fine on their own.

Tom Kemp

 

[Track Rat]

The 012's are decent overheads for sure. I do a lot of drum recording and I can count on one hand the times I've miked a hi hat.

 

[mixmkr]

I don't do much drum mic'ing nowadays... but I always mic the HH, in most cases... I guess that is why there is chocolate and vanilla. You have to watch out for the air swoooosh though...

I guess I just like sizzly symbalzzz

oh...and I used a small dia. condensor...your choice...

 

[Track Rat]

Ya know Mix, I think it's a function of the kits I get to record. For the most part the cymbals are really ment for live use. They're usually very thick to cut thru in a live situation which seems to be all over tones and less of the fundamental. They don't splash like they should for recording.

 

[mgraffeo]

As far as HH mics, I've got a Rode NT-3. While I haven't used it on HH's, there are several demo recordings on the Rode website which feature this mic on the hats. I thought it sounded pretty good. Worth taking a look at. Especially for ~$100 on ebay (if you hold out long enough).

-mg

 

[chingon]

Thanks for all the usefull info people. Well I just came home with a pair of MC012's that I got for $180. I'm going to try them out a bit. BUt I have a question about phantom power. I have a mackie 1402 vlz and when I turn on the phantom power all 6 of the mic inputs get powered. If I have my akg D112 and SM57 plugged in with the phantom switch on will it harm my 2 dynamic mics in any way? If so how do I work around this problem?
thanks again

 

[darrin_h2000]

Yeah, dynamic mics explode when exposed to phantom power.






























Just kidding, it doesnt do a thing to dynamics.

 

[chingon]

hahahahaha. Thanks darrin. Know I need to figure out how to mic this crappy kit. I dont know very much about mic technique. Anybody have any suggestions on how to place the overheads? I'll go expirament and try to keep my mics from exploding now. thanks.

 

[Track Rat]

Smacks darrin in the side of the head. No it won't hurt the dynamic mics. Just don't set the kit up in a puddle of water.

 

[chingon]

mix i to like to have the sizzle on the hats. So i will checking out the NT3 like mgraffeo suggested.

 

[chingon]

any suggestions on a hi-hat mike for around $100-$150 price range?

 

[hrn]

I use a MC012 for hihat. It's the best mic I've ever heard for this purpose. I use a pair of ADK A51's as overheads together with it.

Hans,
www.hagen.nu

 

[chingon]

thanks hrn. I suppose I could go get another MC012 for the hi-hat. They sound pretty good as overheads, they made me re-realize how crappy my drums sound. Any more suggestions?

 

[geekgurl]

SM81

I don't use it, but on Shure's website they list many people who use that mic for miking hi-hat:

http://www.shure.com/scripts/whosusing/whosusing.asp?ID=113&PN=SM81

(Cut and paste URL into your browser's address line if it doesn't appear all on one line here)

Maybe check it out.