Over 40 Blues--"Produced" version

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man to man....I`d hug you. The factors are there...sniff.
And I really needed to hear and feel this mood tonite. I'm stunned fella...

you're a lantern in a gloomy night.
Thank you.
 
Top notch Dad! Can I call you dad?:) Seriously well done. Very smooooooooooth!


Twist
 
Rich, wise and wind worn voice that I hope to have some day:cool:

I believe every word that you wrote and sang via the song ( that is to say your writting and delivery is convincing but I feel you weren't trying to convince anyone of anything, which is to say that your honesty comes through loud and clear).........WHEW!! I knew I could say what I mean if I just kept typing.

This mix has a ton of poise and maturity that is independent of the poise and maturity that is yours alone.

Wholesome song Mr Crawdad. Wholesome song.

Theron.
 
The Piano

Just for the record, though in my earlier post I mentioned that the production seemed a little over-done for me(bet you never expected to hear that about your home-recordings) - I liked the piano. Made it a little more unique and that is to my taste.....

though I'm not accused of having good taste all that often.
 
Looks like I have a few more thank you's to write and a few more comments, so...

scottboyer--Your second post was very gratifying to me. If I in any way inspired you, well, thats what this whole thing is about for me. Believe me, many here inspire me to keep working and trying to be better. If you ever think I could be of any help, PM me and I'd be more than pleased to pass on what I've learned. I still have much more to learn though!

Tucci--Hey, thats what I wanted to hear! I would gladly take a mainstream country slot if I could get one. I also agree that the format is not what it used to be. Every now and then, you hear a song that is killer, but there is so much writing to a very small target, it gets old. You know, "Honey, I love you--you're the best--I don't deserve your love--and oh, what a love it is!, Amen" Oh--I don't have the original demo up now--sorry.

Beezoboy--Thanks for the listen. The drums are from the Battery Studio Drums disc, which is a separate disk that you don't get with the Battery program itself. They are all dry, well recorded samples, so you can do a lot of tweaking with them if needed.

Participant--Those were good comments. I'll only slightly defend two crits (but you are probably right anyway!) First, the bass is pretty lacking in midrange--just because I wanted to open the middle up some. I thought there was enough, but maybe not. Second--I HATE my piano sound! Its a Roland XP-30 and besides being crappy sounding, its also full of out of tune samples. I hear that stuff, so it drives me up a wall. Try playing a just intonated steel over an out of tune stretch piano and you'll know the meaning of insane! I'll never consent to being father of the clinic....old man of the clinic, maybe...but Lt. Bob is as old as me, so it would be co-old man!:D

B.Sabbath--I really appreciate what you said. Hey, this is what is cool--you and I are on totally opposite ends of the musical spectrum in terms of style, but we dig each others work and can appreciate the finer points of making a recording. Seriously, I learn a lot from listening to your songs. I have an E-bow on my list of new toys, so watch out!

Toki987--Just when I'm feeling plenty warm and fuzzy, you say I'm a lantern on a gloomy night. Damn, I'm gonna start feeling too good! Anyway, thanks a bunch for that!

twist--call me "dad" anytime....except when you need money, OK? :D And thanks for taking time out of your day to listen.

Theron--What you said is just what I was trying (or NOT trying) to do! I think a song ought to be like a comfortable pair of shoes that can serve you no matter if you are at the top of your game or under the weather. I think I could sing this one for a number of years and not cringe. Its not gonna be everybody's cup o' tea, but its as truthful as I can be in a song. The ol' voice gets more weathered with each passing day. I'm glad somebody likes it. I never set out to be a singer actually, but just a guitar player. Then, I started and I've been working on it ever since. One day I realized my voice is never gonna get any better, but the way I use it might. Dylan in his old age inspies me. His voice is torn to shreds, but he uses those shreds to express more than many. That inspires me!

Tucci--You know, there is always a danger in adding strings of any kind to any song. It almost automatically seems more "produced". If I had the resources, I'd have somebody like David K do twin fiddle parts and nothing else. Normally, I shy away from strings completely because they seem so cliche. There's another part of me that loves them though. Its always what they use in the sad scenes of movies, right?:D So this is my "strings in the mix song" I guess.

Thanks everybody. You leave me inspired and humble. And, dobro--I'm really ready to do something rocking and heavy! "Crank the Marshalls to eleven lads!"
 
There has got to be a commercial avenue for a song like this. Nice work. Everything sounds up to crawdad standard except............that piano is nasty! :)

Hey, if you have the midi for the piano laying around I could run it through my rig and send you back some options. Just a thought.

oh, and the drums sounded exceptional on this too.

i think by now you know what i think about your voice and guitar playing so not too many comments on that. they are just perfect every time.
 
crawdad,

Man, I can relate to this song.

The only time I feel young, is when I'm bullshiting with you kids, right here at Home Rec, or maybe when I get a happy meal.

That was really really nice, recording singing playing, the whole shabang (Shabang is an over forty term used for summing up parts.)

You go crawdad, you old dog you!!! Try to say that ten times fast! Can't be done. Not at your age.

GT
 
Crawdad,
I was seriously considering picking up an XP 30 till I read your comments. Your the first person I've ever heard complain about it. Do you think you've got a bad one, or are they really a piece of crap? Is that the only piano sound it has, or are there several to choose from, and aren't the sounds tweakable at all?

Thanks
 
Man. I may preface this by saying this isn't my syale of music, but damn dog! That was a great song. Incredible mix, great composition, beautiful sounds. This should be on the air without a doubt!
 
Crawdad,
I listened to the song, then read all the posts, including yours of course. You seem like a very gracious man, which is something that I rarely see from someone of your stature. Your songwriting is something rarely seen from ANYONE. This is truly one of the best I've heard.

I can say honestly that I liked the first version better though, only because of the tempo. This version gives the impression that you're bummed about being over forty. The original version had that I'm over forty, can't do anything about it, piss on it anyway thing going. Either way, I would....no, WILL buy this when it hits the market.

Damn, that's a good song!

bd
 
I have to agree with everything said - song's a HIT...piano needs work.

Good job!
 
Well, maybe my standards aren't as high, or maybe they're just different, but I kinda liked the piano. I'm not defending it, I'm just reporting - I remember hearing it and going something like: "Hm. Honky-tonk feel. Thumbtacks on the hammers. Different. Nice."
 
Yep, that touched this 44 yr old man also. The whole thing just reeks with greatness sir. Thank you.
 
Holy shit dude... that was awesome.

That may be the best written song I've heard here. No offense to anyone else because there are a lot of good songs here, but this one just kind of hit me. This has Confederate Railroad written all over it.

You did a great job singing this. That being said this is the kind of song I would love to have a crack at. I don't think I could do it any better, just would be fun to sing.

I could definitely hear a possibililty of some bg vox here and there...in the choruses possibly.

This goes straight to the keepers folder. Do not pass go, do not collect $200

Plus I just turned 40 a couple weeks ago :D

"Far between and few" I love turns of phrases like that :D

Sheesshhh...this is a well written song. Only problem (not a problem with me) that I see is you aren't going to get those young hunks in a cowboy hat to sing this. Shit if I ever got a recording deal (nearly impossible at my age) I'd snap this song up in a heartbeat.
 
erichenryus--I EQ'ed that piano and I think I made it even worse! Good news is that I'm getting a Motif soon, so I can put a real NICE piano on this!

GT--WOOF!

Twist--I EQ'ed the piano--probably made it suck. Sometimes the pianos are OK, but the samples are not all in tune. I checked with Lt. Bob--a trained piano tuner--and he confirmed what I was hearing. The XP-30's forte is orchestral and synth sounds. Piano's, no. Roland samples, to me are doctored to sound good in midi productions. I guess you either love 'em or hate 'em.

rats--Hello fellow Detroiter! I know your taste runs to totally different areas, but I appreciate the comments and the listen!

bdbdbuck--You brought up something that is absolutely right--the tempo. The first one was faster. When I compared them, I was like--"doh!" It makes me want to either re-cut at a faster tempo or try to time compress the whole thing! Thanks for pointing that out to me! You'd think I would have the sense to keep track of this stuff. I guess this is what happens when the mind grows old and feeble! :D

skids--Yup. Shoot the piano or the player--or both!

Buffalo Bob--Thanks!

Dobro--The Motif will kill the Roland!

David--thank you for that!

Jagular--I think I mentioned that I was gonna throw this song away. I am glad I didn't now. I've had enough good responses to make it worthwhile--whether or not it ever goes beyond the clinic. And you are right--no hat act is gonna do this, but you gave me an idea. Willie Nelson could sing the shit out of this. I'm gonna see about getting it to him somehow!
 
I listened to this a long time ago, but never posted for one of many reasons...kinda like a lot of stuff here lately... so many tunes...rant, rant, rant... sorry, anywazzz.

I think the singing is the winner, pretty much like most of your stuff. I think some of the MIDI sounds are a little weak, and that is the only downfall with this mix. Something that would keep it from being "there"...if you know what I mean. Everything else seems fine to me...but you need REAL strings, REAL piano... or something that sounds not so ...well...so MIDI.

even with my grumblings above, this is about the best of the best around here and in the home recording circle. At least your voice is REAL!!!;) The rest...all you have to do is open up the wallet... ya know...spend $ to make $!!:( Your stuff keeps getting better and better...very noticeably...like SluCie's stuff too.
 
crawdad said:
Willie Nelson could sing the shit out of this. I'm gonna see about getting it to him somehow!

I'll guarantee if Randy Travis heard this song, it would be a done deal. I think your voice sounds a lot like his.

Whoever you send it to is bound to like it! Good luck.

bd
 
crawdad said:
And you are right--no hat act is gonna do this, but you gave me an idea. Willie Nelson could sing the shit out of this. I'm gonna see about getting it to him somehow!

Yes. Yes he could. I would love to hear that. :D
 
Crawdad.....YOU ARE GONNA MAKE A MILLION FROM THIS TUNE!!!!!


My hats off to you my good man! It was a pleasure being able to talk to you before you hit it big!!

I will play this loud and often until I can't stand it no more!

Thx for the great song, Charva
 
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