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Sunking
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Alesis 3630 Compressor.What is so bad about this unit? I have one coming I got for $70.00
sonusman
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Well, at $70, it is about worth it. But comparing this unit with other units in it's same price range new, it is a very disappointing piece of gear.
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CharlesThomas
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Would you care to elaborate? What in particular did you find so disappointing? I also have such a unit en route. I'm currently using a DBX unit (half-rack with just a slider that says "MORE COMPRESSION"). I was hoping the flexibility of the 3630 would be an uprade.
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CharlesThomas
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Further still... what gear in the same price range DO you recommend? Thanks much!
sonusman
Banned
For about the same price new, the Behringer Composer blows the 3630 away.
The 3630 colors the sound a lot whenever the compressor starts to compress. It also seems to need more makeup gain when compressing. Plus, the Behringer has a very good Peak Limiter that is useful for a number of things while tracking (I use the Peak Limiter on it on overhead mics while tracking which allows me to get a very good consistent level to tape with the overhead mics).
The Behringer also has TRS AND XLR in's and out's making it a lot easier to configure into a system. The 3630 only has TRS I/O.
In my opinion, the 3630 is a waste of money if you are buying new. But if you got it for $70, well, can't complain about that. Go for it.
Ed
The 3630 colors the sound a lot whenever the compressor starts to compress. It also seems to need more makeup gain when compressing. Plus, the Behringer has a very good Peak Limiter that is useful for a number of things while tracking (I use the Peak Limiter on it on overhead mics while tracking which allows me to get a very good consistent level to tape with the overhead mics).
The Behringer also has TRS AND XLR in's and out's making it a lot easier to configure into a system. The 3630 only has TRS I/O.
In my opinion, the 3630 is a waste of money if you are buying new. But if you got it for $70, well, can't complain about that. Go for it.
Ed
tutton
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Hi
if you dont want to fork out the extra bucks for the Behringer Composer you might like to try the Behringer Autocom its a very good entry level compressor you will be impressed
Tony
if you dont want to fork out the extra bucks for the Behringer Composer you might like to try the Behringer Autocom its a very good entry level compressor you will be impressed
Tony
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CharlesThomas
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Well, on your advice I went out and bought the Composer 2200 today ($120 barely used). The Alesis should arrive on Monday, so I'll have the chance to use them side-by-side for a while, then sell the one I don't like.
I'll keep everyone informed.
Charles
I'll keep everyone informed.
Charles
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Hano
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Sonusman,
Can you please explain why you don't know how to use the limiter on the Allesis? The fact that the compressor colours the sound shows how hard it's working.
I do know that the best way to compress sound, is to do it inaudibole, but you reply got me stunned. I tend to believe that the components of the Allesis are of much better quality than the chip in the Behringer you are talking about.
I have the impression this way you might scare people away with an honest question. Your opinion is quite coloured to me. I had hoped to find some positive use and tricks here, but you are talking about a better car?
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Can you please explain why you don't know how to use the limiter on the Allesis? The fact that the compressor colours the sound shows how hard it's working.
I do know that the best way to compress sound, is to do it inaudibole, but you reply got me stunned. I tend to believe that the components of the Allesis are of much better quality than the chip in the Behringer you are talking about.
I have the impression this way you might scare people away with an honest question. Your opinion is quite coloured to me. I had hoped to find some positive use and tricks here, but you are talking about a better car?
[This message has been edited by Hano (edited 06-08-2000).]
monty
Banned
Ya Sonusmsn, you bully.
sonusman
Banned
Ummmmmmmm Hano, I DO know how to make the 3630 work like a limiter. You set the ratio to infinity to 1 ratio. Big deal. But the Composer has a true Peak Limiter, with a very sophisticated circuit that works very well. Trust me, I have had this unit up against some very stiff competition (LA 2A's, Manley PulTec's, Urei 1176's, etc....) and it holds it's own quite well.
I DO have a 3630 in my rack. It is my last resort compressor. On certain tracks, or when I am looking for the color it creates, I use it. When I want it's color to the sound, it works well enough.
My opinion is colored? Isn't everybody's? The true test to opinion, and who's you should value usually rest's firmly in precendence. So with that in mind, you are free to review many examples of my work to see if you feel my 'colored opinions' would merit consideration. www.echostarstudio.com/Download.html is where you can download some mp3's of stuff I have recorded/mixed/mastered.
I will tell you this also, I am more apt to see a Behringer Composer on decent studios equipments list's long before I see the 3630. I have seen many big time touring sound companies that have a rack full of them also.
Let's not get into subjective area's here. If you are happy with a 3630, then use the damn thing. Post what YOU think about it, and be sure to provide some links to mp3's of your work, so people have a chance to take a listen and see if you are achieving a level in recording that makes any 'colored opinions' you make worthwhile to them.
Don't think that I didn't consider all compressors in the same price range before buying, I surely did. The Behringer Composer offered a sound much closer to high end Class A compressors then the 3630 did. So I bought it and haven't had one regret about it, and have no problems recommending that product over the 3630 any day of the week for 99.9% of compressor applications.
Peace.
Ed
I DO have a 3630 in my rack. It is my last resort compressor. On certain tracks, or when I am looking for the color it creates, I use it. When I want it's color to the sound, it works well enough.
My opinion is colored? Isn't everybody's? The true test to opinion, and who's you should value usually rest's firmly in precendence. So with that in mind, you are free to review many examples of my work to see if you feel my 'colored opinions' would merit consideration. www.echostarstudio.com/Download.html is where you can download some mp3's of stuff I have recorded/mixed/mastered.
I will tell you this also, I am more apt to see a Behringer Composer on decent studios equipments list's long before I see the 3630. I have seen many big time touring sound companies that have a rack full of them also.
Let's not get into subjective area's here. If you are happy with a 3630, then use the damn thing. Post what YOU think about it, and be sure to provide some links to mp3's of your work, so people have a chance to take a listen and see if you are achieving a level in recording that makes any 'colored opinions' you make worthwhile to them.
Don't think that I didn't consider all compressors in the same price range before buying, I surely did. The Behringer Composer offered a sound much closer to high end Class A compressors then the 3630 did. So I bought it and haven't had one regret about it, and have no problems recommending that product over the 3630 any day of the week for 99.9% of compressor applications.
Peace.
Ed
toad_uk
Member
I love my 3630. I don't think an MP3 would be good enough quality to make a comparison would it? I have a drawmer LX-20. I would be curious what anyone thinks to that?
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Hano
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Thanks Sonus man.
I can appreciate your opinion much better now. But I thought this topic was about the 3630, and I do use one, aldough not so often. I thought your commercial spot on the Behringer would make the 3630 users, and that is what it's about, walk away, instead of learning a lot on compression.
I think you could agree that starting to learn and working with compressors is a hard learning school. But I appreciate you comment very much. I was not trying to offend you. Sorry, if I sounded that way.
It's a fair compressor, and a lot of people, including myself use it, because of it's price range, and the visual control you have with the leds. The subject was not really the quality, even if I agree it matters a lot. But for a homerecorder it's a fair starting piece of gear, and it has helped many of us to start and learn, and feel the need for compressing. Thanks for your long answer. You have cleared out my doubts.
To Toad-UK, Monty, Sunking, Tutton, and Charles...thanks for standing up against an overload of knowledge. It's not "how", but "what" you do with your stuff.
Untill now I haven't heard any MP3 file that I would like to store on any of my cheap CDR's.
Sonusman has a point, but "WE DO" have another compressor, don't we? Say Yeah...YEAH...
I just love myself being a non proffesional. And I do some great stuff. I don't have to prove it. My friends prove it to me...They like my stuff. Goodnight. It was a real pleasure being around.
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I can appreciate your opinion much better now. But I thought this topic was about the 3630, and I do use one, aldough not so often. I thought your commercial spot on the Behringer would make the 3630 users, and that is what it's about, walk away, instead of learning a lot on compression.
I think you could agree that starting to learn and working with compressors is a hard learning school. But I appreciate you comment very much. I was not trying to offend you. Sorry, if I sounded that way.
It's a fair compressor, and a lot of people, including myself use it, because of it's price range, and the visual control you have with the leds. The subject was not really the quality, even if I agree it matters a lot. But for a homerecorder it's a fair starting piece of gear, and it has helped many of us to start and learn, and feel the need for compressing. Thanks for your long answer. You have cleared out my doubts.
To Toad-UK, Monty, Sunking, Tutton, and Charles...thanks for standing up against an overload of knowledge. It's not "how", but "what" you do with your stuff.
Untill now I haven't heard any MP3 file that I would like to store on any of my cheap CDR's.
Sonusman has a point, but "WE DO" have another compressor, don't we? Say Yeah...YEAH...
I just love myself being a non proffesional. And I do some great stuff. I don't have to prove it. My friends prove it to me...They like my stuff. Goodnight. It was a real pleasure being around.
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So Hano, maybe there is a language barrier or something going on here. This thread IS about he quality of the 3630, and NOT about learning to use compression. Sunking and Charles wanted an opinion about the 3630, and I gave one. My intent was not to post "lessons" about compression, except the lesson that a 3630 basically sucks compared to a Behringer Composer.
Both units retail for about the same price. It is my opinion, and the opinion of many other fine engineers who have used both boxes that the Behringer unit is a much better deal then the 3630, if that is the price range you are buying in (under $300).
Did any of you know that the original Behringer Composer sold for $800 retail? Did you know that the Composer is basically, right on down to much of the circuitry, a rip off of a $1000 Drawmer compressor? Behringer decided to keep the ciruitry, and skimp a little on the material of the box, and take advantage of cheap Chinese labor to build what is basically a $1000 quality compressor, and sell it for around $250. When it was sold for $800 initially, people were not buying it because for a couple hundred more, they could have the same thing, but with the Drawmer name on it. Now remember that this was before the recent boom in the "home studio" thing that came along a couple years ago. That being considered, the compressor market was a much different place then it is now. People were far more concerned with having products with the right name on it, rather then a copy of it that was a few bucks cheaper.
It would seem that Behringer had the forethought to go after the new, and expanding "home studio" market when they slashed the price of the Composer by over 50%. Not only did that compressor start flying off the shelf (at first, to commercial project studios like mine, because it became too good of a deal, and at that price for that quality, who cares about the name....), but it started to become a standard which other lower price compressors were judged by. Alesis, true to their form, never upgraded the 3630 to try to compete. Essentially, a new 3630 is just like an old one. At no point was a 3630 ever considered to be a serious compressor. The price on it has never gone up or down drastically. It is just a box that they keep making for some reason. For better or worse.
Hano, have at it with your 3630. I said that before. If it provides adequate quality to you for what you paid for it, great. But I would never pay what they ask for one new as long as a Behringer Composer is available for the same price. Outright, the Composer is just a better piece of gear. More transparent, cleaner sounding, and better I/O options on the jacks.
Oh, buy the way, the Behringer's "lights" are every bit as helpful for visual aid in compression. If the unit is on, the Input/Output lights are showing the Output of the device. If the Bypass switch is engaged, then it is showing the Input to the device. Very cleaver if you ask me. Actually, I never really care what the input is because it really doesn't matter. When I use a compressor, I am usually looking for a certain amount of gain reduction, and the Gain Reduction lights are the most usefull thing on a compressor. Input gain is really meaningless.
Also, I still make the observation that the Behringer Composer has a very nice Peak Limiter circuit on it, which the 3630 DOES NOT have, and it is seperate from the Compressor section.
Also, while I hardly ever use it, I have found that the "Smart Gate" on the Composer works much better then the Gate on the 3630.
So, there you have it. Sorry if you bought a 3630 new. For the same money, you could have bought a Composer and got a better compressor, a True Peak Limiter, and a better "Smart Gate" all in one. The 3630 is just left in the dust compared to it.
Now, to be fair, you will hopefully be seeing an article about compression from me here really soon on the main site of this BBS. While the article will not go into "standard settings" of a compressors (whatever 'standard settings' are...), it will explain all the controls in laymens terms, and hopefully shed a little light into using a compressor.
Another thing Hano. The 3630 "colors" the sound no matter how little compression is used. I have applied as little as 3 db of gain reduction with a 3630 and heard the all too familiar "boominess" that is infamous on a 3630. On a Composer, I don't hear this same "boominess" untill I start getting into the neighborhood of about 10-12 db of gain reduction. This is significant because often on a vocal track, I am looking for around 6-8 db of gain reduction. On a 3630, the vocal becomes very muddy sounding doing this much gain reduction. On a Composer, I have to check to make sure that the unit is even on, because at 6-8 db of gain reduction, I can't usually hear any distortion artifacts from it! The only thing that really changes is the dynamics are much better controlled. The tonality of the vocal is preserved quite well on the Composer at 6-8 db of gain reduction. This is cool because I seldom want a compressor to color the sound. I want the same sound, but with less dynamics.
You also made a point about the quality of the "chip" in the Behringer, compared to the 3630, possibly suggesting that Behringer uses a "lower quality" chip. A look back at Alesis's history in electronics would show that they tend to use some of the lowest quality chips on the market. Certainly, Behringer is not using any "cheaper". If you want to compare the quality of the box material of the two units, then you could make a point that the new Composers skimp here compared to the older units they made. But then again, I haven't seen a new 3630 for over 4 years, so I cannot account for the quality of their box. I know that on the LX-20 ADAT, Alesis has one of the crappiest boxes I have ever seen for a multitrack recorder. It seems ALL lower end audio manufactures are skimping on the sturdiness of the box these days....*sigh*
One last thing. I am not trying to anyone "walk away" from this discussion. Many people read these posts BEFORE they make a purchase in buying a piece of gear. As I stated earlier, Charles asked for an opinion about the 3630, and I gave it. I used the example of the Behringer unit to illustrate that for the same money, a person can get a much better piece of gear. Looking at it that way, more people would tend to be "drawn" to this discussion because a person who has used both pieces of gear is making an honest comparison. If my "opinions" are not shared, oh well. But, I made reference earlier about "precedence". I claim that the Behringer unit provides a better product for the money. I also have posted numerous mp3's of my work so that people may hear what I do so they can evaluate whether my "opinion" is worthwhile or not. I encourage anyone using a 3630 to post some of their material for all to hear so that they may get a better idea of whether THEIR "opinion" is worth considering on the merits of purchasing one over the Composer.
Let's face it Hano, everybody is somewhat influenced by the quality of the source that is pushing the product. If you are doing work that is superior sounding using a 3630, and your work is available for all to hear, then they would just take my opinions with a grain of salt and probably go buy 3630's because they have heard your work with them, and feel that it would be a better deal. But, you seem to think that all should go on your word, with no examples to back it up. I make my work available so that people can make better decisions about how they record, and what they use to record with. If my mp3's sound like shit to you, you can think that I am just an opinionated know it all who is getting a kick back from Behringer or something. But, I don't think my mp3's sound like shit, and I am opinionated about gear choices (and trust me, a Composer is far from my first choice in compressors...try a Crainsong compressor sometime. You will
Both units retail for about the same price. It is my opinion, and the opinion of many other fine engineers who have used both boxes that the Behringer unit is a much better deal then the 3630, if that is the price range you are buying in (under $300).
Did any of you know that the original Behringer Composer sold for $800 retail? Did you know that the Composer is basically, right on down to much of the circuitry, a rip off of a $1000 Drawmer compressor? Behringer decided to keep the ciruitry, and skimp a little on the material of the box, and take advantage of cheap Chinese labor to build what is basically a $1000 quality compressor, and sell it for around $250. When it was sold for $800 initially, people were not buying it because for a couple hundred more, they could have the same thing, but with the Drawmer name on it. Now remember that this was before the recent boom in the "home studio" thing that came along a couple years ago. That being considered, the compressor market was a much different place then it is now. People were far more concerned with having products with the right name on it, rather then a copy of it that was a few bucks cheaper.
It would seem that Behringer had the forethought to go after the new, and expanding "home studio" market when they slashed the price of the Composer by over 50%. Not only did that compressor start flying off the shelf (at first, to commercial project studios like mine, because it became too good of a deal, and at that price for that quality, who cares about the name....), but it started to become a standard which other lower price compressors were judged by. Alesis, true to their form, never upgraded the 3630 to try to compete. Essentially, a new 3630 is just like an old one. At no point was a 3630 ever considered to be a serious compressor. The price on it has never gone up or down drastically. It is just a box that they keep making for some reason. For better or worse.
Hano, have at it with your 3630. I said that before. If it provides adequate quality to you for what you paid for it, great. But I would never pay what they ask for one new as long as a Behringer Composer is available for the same price. Outright, the Composer is just a better piece of gear. More transparent, cleaner sounding, and better I/O options on the jacks.
Oh, buy the way, the Behringer's "lights" are every bit as helpful for visual aid in compression. If the unit is on, the Input/Output lights are showing the Output of the device. If the Bypass switch is engaged, then it is showing the Input to the device. Very cleaver if you ask me. Actually, I never really care what the input is because it really doesn't matter. When I use a compressor, I am usually looking for a certain amount of gain reduction, and the Gain Reduction lights are the most usefull thing on a compressor. Input gain is really meaningless.
Also, I still make the observation that the Behringer Composer has a very nice Peak Limiter circuit on it, which the 3630 DOES NOT have, and it is seperate from the Compressor section.
Also, while I hardly ever use it, I have found that the "Smart Gate" on the Composer works much better then the Gate on the 3630.
So, there you have it. Sorry if you bought a 3630 new. For the same money, you could have bought a Composer and got a better compressor, a True Peak Limiter, and a better "Smart Gate" all in one. The 3630 is just left in the dust compared to it.
Now, to be fair, you will hopefully be seeing an article about compression from me here really soon on the main site of this BBS. While the article will not go into "standard settings" of a compressors (whatever 'standard settings' are...), it will explain all the controls in laymens terms, and hopefully shed a little light into using a compressor.
Another thing Hano. The 3630 "colors" the sound no matter how little compression is used. I have applied as little as 3 db of gain reduction with a 3630 and heard the all too familiar "boominess" that is infamous on a 3630. On a Composer, I don't hear this same "boominess" untill I start getting into the neighborhood of about 10-12 db of gain reduction. This is significant because often on a vocal track, I am looking for around 6-8 db of gain reduction. On a 3630, the vocal becomes very muddy sounding doing this much gain reduction. On a Composer, I have to check to make sure that the unit is even on, because at 6-8 db of gain reduction, I can't usually hear any distortion artifacts from it! The only thing that really changes is the dynamics are much better controlled. The tonality of the vocal is preserved quite well on the Composer at 6-8 db of gain reduction. This is cool because I seldom want a compressor to color the sound. I want the same sound, but with less dynamics.
You also made a point about the quality of the "chip" in the Behringer, compared to the 3630, possibly suggesting that Behringer uses a "lower quality" chip. A look back at Alesis's history in electronics would show that they tend to use some of the lowest quality chips on the market. Certainly, Behringer is not using any "cheaper". If you want to compare the quality of the box material of the two units, then you could make a point that the new Composers skimp here compared to the older units they made. But then again, I haven't seen a new 3630 for over 4 years, so I cannot account for the quality of their box. I know that on the LX-20 ADAT, Alesis has one of the crappiest boxes I have ever seen for a multitrack recorder. It seems ALL lower end audio manufactures are skimping on the sturdiness of the box these days....*sigh*
One last thing. I am not trying to anyone "walk away" from this discussion. Many people read these posts BEFORE they make a purchase in buying a piece of gear. As I stated earlier, Charles asked for an opinion about the 3630, and I gave it. I used the example of the Behringer unit to illustrate that for the same money, a person can get a much better piece of gear. Looking at it that way, more people would tend to be "drawn" to this discussion because a person who has used both pieces of gear is making an honest comparison. If my "opinions" are not shared, oh well. But, I made reference earlier about "precedence". I claim that the Behringer unit provides a better product for the money. I also have posted numerous mp3's of my work so that people may hear what I do so they can evaluate whether my "opinion" is worthwhile or not. I encourage anyone using a 3630 to post some of their material for all to hear so that they may get a better idea of whether THEIR "opinion" is worth considering on the merits of purchasing one over the Composer.
Let's face it Hano, everybody is somewhat influenced by the quality of the source that is pushing the product. If you are doing work that is superior sounding using a 3630, and your work is available for all to hear, then they would just take my opinions with a grain of salt and probably go buy 3630's because they have heard your work with them, and feel that it would be a better deal. But, you seem to think that all should go on your word, with no examples to back it up. I make my work available so that people can make better decisions about how they record, and what they use to record with. If my mp3's sound like shit to you, you can think that I am just an opinionated know it all who is getting a kick back from Behringer or something. But, I don't think my mp3's sound like shit, and I am opinionated about gear choices (and trust me, a Composer is far from my first choice in compressors...try a Crainsong compressor sometime. You will
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sonusman:
I've posted this question to you a few times before, but I have a feeling you've never seen it.
Have you used an RNC? If so, how would you compare it to a Composer? I have never used any Behringer products myself, so I have not a clue, but I'd like to get a few opinions.
Realize, I'm not looking into getting another compressor anytime soon, especially since I just recently bought one, (DaviSound TB-3 will be here in about a week) and an RNC not too long before that. I'm just thinking far, far in advance.
I've posted this question to you a few times before, but I have a feeling you've never seen it.
Have you used an RNC? If so, how would you compare it to a Composer? I have never used any Behringer products myself, so I have not a clue, but I'd like to get a few opinions.
Realize, I'm not looking into getting another compressor anytime soon, especially since I just recently bought one, (DaviSound TB-3 will be here in about a week) and an RNC not too long before that. I'm just thinking far, far in advance.
sonusman
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Sorry RE, haven't tried one yet. That is why you never see me comparing it to the Composer.
You want to send your's up to me for a comparison?
Just kidding. I doubt either of us can afford to give up our units for even a couple days. But maybe after a break in some of the stuff I am currently doing, I could possibly send mine down for a week for you to check out. Split postage.
Ed
You want to send your's up to me for a comparison?
Just kidding. I doubt either of us can afford to give up our units for even a couple days. But maybe after a break in some of the stuff I am currently doing, I could possibly send mine down for a week for you to check out. Split postage.Ed
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Hano
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Sorry Ed,
I haven't had the luck using the Behringer before. But I have read many posts that this RNC (Real Nice Compressor) is an easy to use compressor, with a very good quality. But also that one I haven't had the chance to use. I'm stunned again.
I'm just a soul who's intentions are good....
I haven't had the luck using the Behringer before. But I have read many posts that this RNC (Real Nice Compressor) is an easy to use compressor, with a very good quality. But also that one I haven't had the chance to use. I'm stunned again.
I'm just a soul who's intentions are good....
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LongWaveStudio
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Alesis 3630 V Behringer Composer
Hi,
Ive just been reading up on this Alesis V Behringer deal.
Personally, I have a fully professional studio (it's not a home studio!!), and Im afraid I use the 3630 over the behringer everytime. I really dont like the Composer. It works really well on a lot of vocals, especially vocals for dance tracks. I use it on some drum track too. I tend to use my Urei or Focusrites now for compression on vocals. But ive never been a fan of that Composer unit. To be honest, ihad a lot of Behringer gear sent to my studio, didn't really like any of it, especially that Modulizer or whateverit's called. I have 8 Alesis 3630's in my rack now, and that's just in one studio. in the same building, i own 5 studios, Studio A, B, Pro Tools Studio, Dance Music * Mastering suite, plus a video edit room. every single studio has 3630's in them. I relaly love them.
sorry!
i guess it's an external view on your discussion though, since i dont have a home studio as such. If you live in wales, check out my studio:
5 studios, 48 track Otari/Studer analog machines, Pro Tools 24Mix Plug (FULL VERSION), Mackie D8B for mixdown with Pro Tools, Neve console for studio a. come and do some recording!
-rox
Hi,
Ive just been reading up on this Alesis V Behringer deal.
Personally, I have a fully professional studio (it's not a home studio!!), and Im afraid I use the 3630 over the behringer everytime. I really dont like the Composer. It works really well on a lot of vocals, especially vocals for dance tracks. I use it on some drum track too. I tend to use my Urei or Focusrites now for compression on vocals. But ive never been a fan of that Composer unit. To be honest, ihad a lot of Behringer gear sent to my studio, didn't really like any of it, especially that Modulizer or whateverit's called. I have 8 Alesis 3630's in my rack now, and that's just in one studio. in the same building, i own 5 studios, Studio A, B, Pro Tools Studio, Dance Music * Mastering suite, plus a video edit room. every single studio has 3630's in them. I relaly love them.
sorry!
i guess it's an external view on your discussion though, since i dont have a home studio as such. If you live in wales, check out my studio:
5 studios, 48 track Otari/Studer analog machines, Pro Tools 24Mix Plug (FULL VERSION), Mackie D8B for mixdown with Pro Tools, Neve console for studio a. come and do some recording!
-rox
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Lambo
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Well, I not much for this 'my dog is better than your dog' crap, but I own both the 3630 and the Composer Pro. I run everything through the Pro and use the 3630 as a place holder.
sonusman
Banned
Hmmmmmm...
LMS-
Man, to invest that kind of money in recording systems, then really upon a $230 (new) dynamic processor as your main processor! I don't even know what to say....
I suppose if it works for you, great.
I would like to hear some mp3's though. 192kbs, using the Frauhaffer codec too. I REALLY want to hear a recording done on a Studer 2" machine where the main processing is done with a 3630!
I can tell you this. I see Composers in many big time sound company racks. I also see them is pretty decent regional studios equipment lists. I seldom to ever see a 3630. And usually just one.
Maybe you hear something the rest of us don't! I want to hear it now.
Ed
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Man, to invest that kind of money in recording systems, then really upon a $230 (new) dynamic processor as your main processor! I don't even know what to say....
I suppose if it works for you, great.
I would like to hear some mp3's though. 192kbs, using the Frauhaffer codec too. I REALLY want to hear a recording done on a Studer 2" machine where the main processing is done with a 3630!
I can tell you this. I see Composers in many big time sound company racks. I also see them is pretty decent regional studios equipment lists. I seldom to ever see a 3630. And usually just one.
Maybe you hear something the rest of us don't!
I want to hear it now.Ed