OK, I admit it. I don't know how to drive a multiband

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CIRO said:
I was listening "steely dan´s (Gaucho) babylon sisters" today ....great dinamics,
Ciro
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Man, that song on a good system is practically orgassmic! What perfect dynamics.

Elton John's Madman Across the Water is another good one.
 
Bob Clearmountain in a 2004 interview;

"Occasionally, a piece of gear comes along that fills a certain need that I have. An example is the BSS dynamic equalizer. I always wanted a box that would compress or limit certain frequencies, so when a frequency gets harsh, it will be sensitive to just that. Finally, BSS came up with it and it's brilliant: a 4-band equalizer that doesn't do anything until that frequency hits a threshold that you set. It was exactly what I'd been wanting."

Interesting. I think Weiss makes one too. What's the delineation between dynamic EQ and multiband comp?
 
*Ok, I´m talking about but I´m blaming myself too. One of first thing somebody with a "no excellent gear" (me too)
think is to achive some kind of compression to have "pressure". Sometimes (almost ever), a mistake
 
Robert D said:
Man, that song on a good system is practically orgassmic! What perfect dynamics.

Elton John's Madman Across the Water is another good one.
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And (my favorite Elton´s) Captain Fantastic And the Brown Dirt Cowboy?
:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

Where´s MBC´s? :D
 
Thanks to flatfinger for the link ...Very informative article


chazba
 
Robert D said:
What's the delineation between dynamic EQ and multiband comp?
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Well, if I understand correctly, the difference is that MBCs use crossovers while dynamic EQs use bandpass filters. So with MBCs you'd be adjusting crossover points, while with dynamic EQs you'd set the center frequency and adjust the Q just like you'd do with a regular EQ.

The end result might still be the same, it's just a different approach and each require a somewhat different thought process... For example with MBCs you'd be working with frequency regions, while with dynamic EQ with target frequencies.
 
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Good thread.

A thumbs up here for the multiband compressor.

Any tool can be misused. A multiband used wisely is invaluable on polyphonic instruments where there's a bass line and treble part played at the same time.

Tim
 
TOP link RAMI. That might solve my prob with Full Circle. I'll give it a burl. TA.
I did & it did. I have to tweak a bit to find the best settings but it's solved the prob of lyric clarity. Nice one Canadian tub thumper.
 
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RAMI said:
This might not have much to do with the rest of this thread, but Glen brought up "Motown Compression", so I figured I'd throw in this link. http://www.recordinginstitute.com/R2KREQ/excomp.htm
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In all fairness, that was part of Mshilarious' contribution to this thread. I don't want to throw a pad across anybody's thunder :).

I'm not saying there's a right or a wrong with this whole MBC thing, and I admit that I am in the obviously tiny minority (possibly of one) here, but frankly if I were to wake up tomorrow morning in a Twilight Zone world where MBCs didn't exist and I knew I could never ever use one again, it wouldn't bother me in the least bit.

G.
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
I'm not saying there's a right or a wrong with this whole MBC thing, and I admit that I am in the obviously tiny minority (possibly of one) here, but frankly if I were to wake up tomorrow morning in a Twilight Zone world where MBCs didn't exist and I knew I could never ever use one again, it wouldn't bother me in the least bit.
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Heck I didn't really have a MBC until earlier this year. Well I had the canned Wavelab MBC but that was poo. I've used the Precision MBC about half a dozen times so far. That's about half the number of times I've used the Roland Space Echo :o :o :o and I use the Pultec on practically everything I've done.

Lately I just use the EX-1 to create A-weighted curves for noise tests . . . oh, how far I've fallen :(
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
... but frankly if I were to wake up tomorrow morning in a Twilight Zone world where MBCs didn't exist and I knew I could never ever use one again, it wouldn't bother me in the least bit.

G.
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I think I'd agree with you. I love the Limiter with all my heart, but I wouldn't miss the MBC. Maybe we just need more time together.

Looks like my snare problem wont be solved by a multiband anyway, I'll just fix it properly instead.

Great link, thanks Rami. I'm going to try that one
 
Robert D said:
Man, that song on a good system is practically orgassmic! What perfect dynamics.

Elton John's Madman Across the Water is another good one.
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One of my favorites to explain what (the late great) actual dynamics are to some one is to play " the ballad of danny baily" from yellow brick road.
Que it up at a healthy level ; starts nice and soft...." some punk with a shot gun"..............when that first drum hit comes in

POW getsum every time!!!!!!!!!!!check yer drawers! :p :p
 
noisewreck said:
Well, if I understand correctly, the difference is that MBCs use crossovers while dynamic EQs use bandpass filters. So with MBCs you'd be adjusting crossover points, while with dynamic EQs you'd set the center frequency and adjust the Q just like you'd do with a regular EQ.

The end result might still be the same, it's just a different approach and each require a somewhat different thought process... For example with MBCs you'd be working with frequency regions, while with dynamic EQ with target frequencies.
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If it is a simple gain reduction of the entire signal in that frequency range than it is different from compression because compression only works on the signal above a threshhold. I've been wanting something that does this as well.
 
BRIEFCASEMANX said:
If it is a simple gain reduction of the entire signal in that frequency range than it is different from compression because compression only works on the signal above a threshhold. I've been wanting something that does this as well.
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Wouldn't that just be an EQ? Also, a compressor can be set to effectively have no threshold level.
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
.......if I were to wake up tomorrow morning in a Twilight Zone world where MBCs didn't exist and I knew I could never ever use one again, it wouldn't bother me in the least bit.
G.
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I'd be much more concerned with which episode I was in, and what not to do. :eek:

I agree entirely. I rarely use an MBC, but like a bunch of tools out in my shed, about once or twice a year it's the right tool for the job.
 
If you guys can use VST plugs here's a free one that does dynamic EQ, Comp, Exp type things in stereo or m/s. It's called IQ4gui. Some similarities to the Sonalksis CD/DQ set but a lot cheaper. I don't know if it's been mentioned yet but you guys were talking about BandPass filters vs crossovers. This one uses bandpass - I don't like the crossover type MB, I don't really know why - imagined or psychoacoustic. I can't usually get a sound I want to keep that's all.

http://www.platinumears.com/
http://www.platinumears.com/IQ4gui.zip

Then there's the smoothest BP-MB on the planet - Soniformer. You gots to pay for that one though. I do get a keeper sound out of this: ;)

http://www.voxengo.com/product/soniformer/
 
Kylen, I think we're both fans of the Voxengo stuff...... have you tried Gliss EQ? I believe that's a 5 band dynamic bandpass EQ.
 
Robert D said:
Kylen, I think we're both fans of the Voxengo stuff...... have you tried Gliss EQ? I believe that's a 5 band dynamic bandpass EQ.
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Yes - I have that one and it is nice on some things. I don't have it in a chain right now as I'm giving PSP MasterQ a go on this project...gotta rotate the harem you know! :D
 
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