obtaining consistant volume within a track

[willow]

hi,

i have cakewalk 9 and i'm a newbie and do not know much.

i have a song that has a few tracks where the guitar player did several punch-ins. some of the small parts are different volumes than the rest of the track.

how can i take the average volume of the track and correct the fluctuations to match the rest of the track?

i once tried the envelope volume thing but did not get the hang of it.

is there another way?

thanks for your time

 

[mixsit]

ii once tried the envelope volume thing but did not get the hang of it.

is there another way?

Damn, that would be about the best fix I'd bet. Especially 'clip envelopes for matching up punches. Then you can still layer 'track envelopes on top to fine tune the mix.

A bunch of people will likely say compression -but for the wrong reason (a missapplication IMHO.
Wayne

 

[Farview]

Volume and clip envelopes are the way. Those are used in so many different ways that you almost need to learn how to use them.

The real answer is to avoid the problem in the first place by coming up with a system to set your recording levels. That way, punchins are the same volume and you don't have do do that much fixing.

 

[willow]

clip punches and track envelopes

Damn, that would be about the best fix I'd bet. Especially 'clip envelopes for matching up punches. Then you can still layer 'track envelopes on top to fine tune the mix.

A bunch of people will likely say compression -but for the wrong reason (a missapplication IMHO.
Wayne

OK,

thanks,

can you maybe explain how to do the clip punches and track envelopes?

sometimes going by the manual is just frustrating!!

gracias

 

[moskus]

Sorry, willow. Cakewalk PA 9 doesn't have track envelopes, so you are not able to do the "ride the fader"-thing. Or you can... but it's alot of work, adjusting every clip.

My best tip is that you should look for a compressor (hardware or plugin).

 

[Newbie-Doo]

Cakewalk Audio FX1 might have what you need.

http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/AudioFX1/

I picked that up a year or two ago for $15 on ebay.

 

[mixsit]

Sorry, willow. Cakewalk PA 9 doesn't have track envelopes, so you are not able to do the "ride the fader"-thing. Or you can... but it's alot of work, adjusting every clip.

My best tip is that you should look for a compressor (hardware or plugin).

Ya' know... I thought that sounded fishy when I read it the other day, and I just realized -this internet surf-board PC used to be my DAW...

"So?" "Get to the damn point."
Yes, right. I just launched PA8, right clicked in the 'Audio view' (remember that one? ) up comes..
'Envelopes'.

 

[mixsit]

OK,

thanks,

can you maybe explain how to do the clip punches and track envelopes?

sometimes going by the manual is just frustrating!!

gracias

The difference between 'clip and 'track envelope volume-automation;
'Clip are like pre-gain on a mixer -before effects sends and inserts and the track volume fader, and only cover that 'clip'.
'Track envelopes cover the whole track and control the track volume fader.
Once you get an envelope up you right click (on the envelope) to add a 'Node which are the turning points for the volume changes.

Now all we need is someone willing to open a PA9 manual, (or maybe at least click on the damn help button to see if '9 has clip envelopes 'cause 8' does not.

And.. "Friends don't let friends compress for the wrong reasons."

 

[mindbuzz]

If all else fails and you can't figure out how to use the track envelopes right away, give the punches their own separate tracks and watch the meters. You can make sure each punch is jumping at about the same decibel level and reaching similar max volume by adjusting each track volume and EQ accordingly because they all have their own track.