Noise in certain frequencies

[ericlingus]

Okay i've been miking my vtone 210 amp with a 57 into a firebox. At certain frequencies like around 100hz I get a rumble,hum sound. Also at around 1780hz, I get a wooshy/scrapy sound. Hard to describe. Either way these noises are definately not wanted. I've tried cutting those frequencies where they occur, but then it just kills the tone. What can I do to fix this? Anyone else have a similar problem? Would any dynamic processors help? If so, which ones and how? This is very annoying seeing how I finally get a decent tone. It seems hard to capture a good tremolo picked tone. The fast picking creates all sorts of crappy noises. I've improved on my technique and it helps of course. But it still happens. Hope someone can help. Thanks.

 

[metalhead28]

You should try to get it right at the source. Dial in your amp differently, or try different mic placements. If you can't get rid of it like that, then it is just inherent in your equipment.

That being said, 100 Hz should not really be contributing much of anything to your guitar tone, that is bass territory. If you've got too much 100 Hz just cut it out, the bass will make up for it. I high pass guitars at 100 hz or so anyway if that is any consolation.

The wooshy/scrapy sound just sounds like a property of the distortion of your amplifier. Maybe you could smooth it out with mic placement or recording with less high end/gain.

 

[ericlingus]

its just been such a pain in the ass recording this tremolo picked part. It's really only this that's giving me problems. Other parts are fine. Just any tremolo picked part. Which sucks cause this is black metal after all! I'll take what you said in to consideration. The riff is tremolo picked diads. Maybe I could the notes separately. Like one guitar plays the root and other plays the 5th/6th/etc.

 

[ericlingus]

oh and that swooshy sound in the mids gets worse with less distortion! Very annoying problem. The first problem is not hard to get by. It's the other one thats hard plus sounds much worse. Maybe I should cut the mids on the amp when I track. The more mids and less distortion and louder the amp, the more that horrible noise! What's your mids set on on your amp? and how what db should I track at? i've been peaking at 12.0db on this riff. Is that fine? I've heard in books that's what to do. Then I hear in others its not. So I dunno!

 

[metalhead28]

oh and that swooshy sound in the mids gets worse with less distortion! Very annoying problem. The first problem is not hard to get by. It's the other one thats hard plus sounds much worse. Maybe I should cut the mids on the amp when I track. The more mids and less distortion and louder the amp, the more that horrible noise! What's your mids set on on your amp? and how what db should I track at? i've been peaking at 12.0db on this riff. Is that fine? I've heard in books that's what to do. Then I hear in others its not. So I dunno!

I don't know what that noise is. Possibly just picking noise? That could get worse with less gain. Not to be insulting, but perhaps you could examine the way you are playing. Are you taking the pick across the strings at a very agressive angle? Change it up and see what happens to your tone. That's just an idea, it may not be that at all....

The mid setting that I use when recording won't have the slightest relevance to what you're doing. But I do track with lots of mids. Usually two tracks with lower gain and lots of mids, then two tracks with less mids and more gain. That seems to be the closest thing to a formula that I have. perhaps that will help.

 

[ericlingus]

yeah its the pick noise. Finally figured out exactly what it is. I guess I could call it scrapy. I guess I just need to practice it more. But I still don't see it going completley away. Maybe, I guess i'll see in time. What would you recommend I do to help it? I try to use very little of the pick. Just the very tip. And I just lightly hit the strings. I am kinda parallel to the strings with the pick. At a slight angle though. What would you suggest? Should I try differnt picks? Right now I use jazz III picks. I tried using thinner ones but that didn't help.