No Sound!

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The midi notes aren't "sound". They are just pointers that say "play this note at this velocity". You must have some type of sound generating program loaded that is then triggered by the midi note. You need a virtual instrument.

Try downloading a free Piano VST such as the ones found here: https://output.com/blog/best-free-piano-vsts,

Add the plugin to the channel where you have your keyboard routed and see if it starts to play notes.
I am signing-up to the free places only to find charges down the road or limited access. Just spent another hour downloading god knows what to no avail; the most recent being 'noiiz'. There should be plug-ins with Ableton but the folders just show up empty. I found some midi files in an app called Cakewalk and have selected them but have no idea how to process them. I have switched to my Keystation 49e now. That does have a din socket! I can see the notes I am playing on screen but still no sound. It shouldn't be this difficult!
 
I have just tried 'Coolsoft' as a recommended alternative to Microsoft Synth that isn't on this computer and that wants me to drop in 'soundfonts' before I can progress; from where I have no idea.
 
If you are seeing ""notes" on the screen, the all you are missing is plugins for the sound. Ableton is supposed to have instruments included, but since I don't use it, I don't know where they put them or how you get them.
 
Try downloading this. No signups, just a quick and easy synth that will let you know if you set up and getting sound.


If you put it in your /common/VST3 folder and Ableton looks there, you should be able to hear something. This took me about 2 minutes in Reaper.

Dexed playing midi file.webp


BTW, Soundfonts are just like fonts for letters, except they are for sound. Google will show you where to find hundreds of them.
 
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A breakthrough! I went in to a programme called Komplete Kontrol and was able to assign sounds from a library to the 49e.
 
Congrats. Like I said, sometimes you just need to find that one setting to get over the hump.
 
You have a NI package? Then get some of their sound stuff - it's excellent.
 
Two years later and I am still struggling. I can't remember how I got sounds before as I keep coming back to this every few weeks or even months. I have pretty much given-up. I got a Qmini keyboard and the MPC Beats software but am still unable to get a sound out of anything. I also have a Fostex VF-160 that is gathering dust. Dexed gives me sounds when I click on the virtual keyboard but how do I get a sound out of the 'real' keyboard?
 
I started this thread some time ago. have now got an Alesis Qmini and an old Keystation 49e. I have installed MPC Beats that came with the Alesis, Cakewalk and Musicmaker. No matter how I try, I cannot get a sound from either keyboard or 'see' them in any of the apps. It is driving me to despair to the point where I think I need to build a desktop computer with a proper soundcard and not use this i3 laptop. I even paid for a lesson on Cubase but my machine won't run the latest version and I don't see how to buy an older version. I must have spent the best part of a hundred hours trying to figure this out. Many years ago, I had 'Reason' and a keyboard and it was easy. I have also tried Traction, Midi Editor and Audacity to no avail. I have an Alesis electric kit and a Yamaha organ, both with Midi out but I have no idea where to go from here. I just want to make some music.
 

Go there and download their demo. It will run on its own but has just about the simplest to use MIDI interface. The Keys49 is I am sure the same box as my Ekey49 by Evolution and I still have the driver and software disc for it somewhere. You can try Avid who now own M-Audio and use their 49 key controller driver although Windows should install the keyboard with a "generic" USB driver.

Once Pianoteq is making noises for you download the freebie of Cakewalk from Bandlab. You also really need a USB Audio Interface. I can strongly recommend the MOTU M2 or M4. You might find their free DAW useful as well.


Dave.
 

Go there and download their demo. It will run on its own but has just about the simplest to use MIDI interface. The Keys49 is I am sure the same box as my Ekey49 by Evolution and I still have the driver and software disc for it somewhere. You can try Avid who now own M-Audio and use their 49 key controller driver although Windows should install the keyboard with a "generic" USB driver.

Once Pianoteq is making noises for you download the freebie of Cakewalk from Bandlab. You also really need a USB Audio Interface. I can strongly recommend the MOTU M2 or M4. You might find their free DAW useful as well.


Dave.
Hi Dave

I have a working keyboard! There is hope yet! I already have Cakewalk. I was playing the demo and trying to set it up for midi yesterday evening. Thank you so much.
 
I watched a Cakewalk Midi set-up video here and it showed me the light! I can now assign specific instruments to my Qmini keyboard at last! I even managed to record some sounds. I am a happy person tonight. Bring on the wine and chocolate.
 
I now have Behringer UMC202 to connect a guitar and microphone so I can record but I have tried Cakewalk, MPC Beats, and Audacity and none are picking-up the inputs. I installed the 202 drivers I have lost (or forgotten) the ability to get any sound from my midi keyboard. I have a feeling it might be something to do with the many usb inputs on extensions. I often get the ' last device not recognised' when the keyboard is plugged in. I am using an i3 laptop and perhaps I need to get a desktop machine that I can fit a proper soundcard to? This is driving me up the wall. I keep coming back to this and failing. I had 'Reason' and a midi keyboard decades ago and it all worked fine.
 
First thing is internal soundcards are pretty much gone, everyone is using external ones now as it really doesn't matter if you use desktops or laptops. Please do take this the wrong way, but rereading your posts, there are warning bells. You have verey common hardware and software. You are using older, but common computers. The snag seems to be that for some reason, you cannot make them work. This isn’t the same as them not working, clearly loads of people have them quite happily working. At one stage you mentioned cubase wouldn't run and you were look8ng for an older version?

Which version of Windows are you running. Please say 10 or 11. Anything older is a problem. If you have a Windows 10 computer, it is on borrowed time. Warnings of ancientness pop up regularly on the screen.

Cubase, cakewalk and audacity ALL install even on lower spec machines over a threshold of ancientness. If they wont install, you have either crossed the line or maybe have your computer set up badly, by design or accident. If you cannot remember basic processes such as routing, you probably have also forgotten other critical things.

Being frank, EVERY computer DAW of any cost, requires routing. Things like pianoteq, running from the direct access app, scan your system for active drivers and just work. Native instruments run as a standalone will do the same. Used as a VSTi through a DAW, they relinquish control to the DAW, because you will not want that instrument to always be connected. My cubase system i noticed yesterday, trying to do something a bit more unusual, had the choice of around a dozen potential connected device coming in. The Swissonic master keyboard had three entries. Two did not connect it, but the remaining one did. When i saved the project in cubase, it started up again with that connection linked to the project.

One vry important comment. When a usb device is not recognised message appears, go to device manager and find it. You often get hints. One of my devices gets misidentified by windows 11 as a serial communication device, when it is not. The cure is downloading the driver again and making sure it is the windows 11 version. Even then, sometimes that fails, and an older driver, against common sense, installs properly. This is normal. Your posts indicate you're not comfy with this faffing around, which sadly is normal. You appear to buy lots of stuff, fail to find solutions, and buy something else. The problem is that its the user interface not the products, but perhaps compounded by older computers and operating systems?

You also rarely give detailed explanations of exactly what you did. You said you can assign specific sounds to your qmini! You didnt. The qmini is just driving something else. That is where your success went. What sounds, what daw or direct sound app? If you have that keyboard connected, it’s driver has been accepted. Pianoteq or what else running direct, found it. It makes a noise. This has nothing to do with recording. You need to make your daw connect to that device. That is done in the daw, manually, by you. You really have to sit down, engage patience and fiddle. There are no youtube videos that will tell you what to do exactly, because your circumstances are different. Videos give you a clue where to look. We can help if maybe you take screen shots we can study of things like what cubase or others are displaying in their menus for connecting devices. At least give us half a chance to help. You never provide details, just general comments like i cant connect. I appreciate maybe you just dont learn by experimentation, some people dont, but you need to give us something to work with?
 
Hi Rob, thanks for taking the time to reply. I have 10. I don't seem able to upgrade to 11. I had a free trial of Cubase working but the latest version wouldn't install on my i3 when I tried to buy it. I was able to record some stuff on Cakewalk last time I tried but I really don't understand VST2 and VST3 and where my libraries are. I wasn't aware there was a driver needed for the QMini. I also have an old MAudio Keystation 49e that I haven't been able to get to work. I see the QMini is visible in some apps and in others there is nothing showing when I select the MIDI options. I bought a used keyboard last year that wouldn't let me install the required driver and the same with an interface I bought on Ebay that wouldn't work beyond Windows 7. I'm eally not having much luck here. It's difficult to provide detail as I am jumping between Magix Music Maker, Cakewalk, MPC Beats and Audacity trying to get a response and just getting more frustrated. I plugged in a microphone to the laptop and a guitar through the Beheringer and opened Audacity but it didn't find anything.

I work in a school and I know a couple of people who might be able to help. Believe it or not, I used to work in IT. I'm really not an idiot; until it comes to trying to make music on my PC. I have an electric kit and a Yamaha organ both with MIDI out, waiting in the sidelines.
 
USB instruments and keyboards, even controller keyboards always need drivers for windows. Windows 11 requires certain features on your computer - I bought a new one rather than have to put in new motherboard and other odds and ends. Cubase is on version 14 and it works fine on Windows 10. If it would not install, there is something adrift with the computer - perhaps permissions issues or simply not enough space for all the VSTi stuff? The MAudio keyboard needs a driver. If you have an interface with MIDI in, that should work with the MIDI out on those devices - BUT - very often MIDI drivers in addition to the audio driver for the interface are needed. I have an old Lexicon interface that has not got Windows 10 or 11 drivers. However, the W7 one actually worked fine, once I pursuaded W10 to install it.

IF one app sees the QMini - then the others should be able to use it too, assuming you know how to do it.

VST2 and 3 are just evolutions, but support for the old 32 bit VSTi's is tricky. I have a few that I have in a little shell that tricks cubase into thinking they are 64 bit. If you cannot find where your sample libraries are, your skill set is a bit, er, shaky? You mentioned Native earlier? If you run the native app, you can use it to see where it has put your libraries, but if they use .wav files, why not just search for all your wav files and see what comes up?
 
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