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Hello all,

I'm completely new to this forum. However, I've been working on a small home studio for the past few months, building it bit by expensive bit. I'm a metal guitar player and am seeking to record guitar tracks. I've ran into an issue with lower frequencies (in the 100hz - 250hz range) creating a "wub" sound. I've tried positioning the mic at many different angles and changed it's distance from the speaker. I'm currently using an Eminence V128 speaker, with an Orange Micro Dark. I have an isolation box with 2 1/2 inch thick studio foam inside and an SM57 which I use to mic the speaker. I use Studio One 3 and have a DBX 31 band graphic EQ as well as a DBX compressor/gate along with a tube preamp. I'm using a Presonus audiobox. I've included a photo of the isolation box which also has a lid to go over it. I don't mind providing screen shots of the frequencies which are popping within the parametric EQ. The mic in the photo is an sm58 (used it just to see what would happen) I realize that is not the best mic to use. I have the SM57.

Thanks so much to all who read my post! I greatly appreciate it. If any other information is needed please feel free to ask :)

Keith
 

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"acoustic foam" absorbs almost nothing below 250Hz, hence your problem.
 
mjb,

Thanks for the quick reply. Recording is foreign to me, as a result I know very little about what to do. What may be a viable solution? Expand the isolation box and add bass traps? Thank you for the correction as well. Would a different acoustic foam help? I can't thank you enough for taking time to reply to my post. You have no idea how much I appreciate it.

Keith
 
Are you unable to crank a amp/cabinet in your home?

Isolation cabinets 'especially small ones' are going to have issues. The box itself is going to resonate and alter the tone severely.
 
jimmys69,

Thanks so much for your reply. I have my own home and would be able to crank the volume. However, would I then need to use acoustic foam to foam out the room? And bass traps?

Thanks
 
Keithm30 said:
jimmys69,

Thanks so much for your reply. I have my own home and would be able to crank the volume. However, would I then need to use acoustic foam to foam out the room? And bass traps?

Thanks
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Not so much. Being that you are going for a 'metal' type tone, you want to close mic that amp. The room is likely going to affect your tone way less than that isolation box is giving you now.

Start experimenting man. Mic the cone about 3/4 the way from center of the speaker to the edge about an inch away from the cone. 57 may be better but the 58 with the ball of is very similar in frequency response. Hard to tell the difference.
 
jimmys69,

Awesome. I will absolutely try your suggestion and see what I get. I'll post back and let you know how it works out.

Keith
 
You will find by experimenting that the center of the cone is going to be more harsh and brittle. Towards the edge a bit more warmth. This is a vague description but that is what happens.

Depending on the tone you are after, you will want to experiment with tracking your rhythm guitar tracks twice and panning them. You may find that less gain/distortion works better when comining the two tracks.

Most of all, have fun with this and find a tone that cuts but not wash your mix. You want definition in your playing.
 
jimmys69,

Great information and thanks again for responding to my post. I'll experiment with the mic placement you suggested. I've been after a nice warm tone, with a good mid crunch and not too much high gain. I play mostly thrash metal along with plenty of harmonies and a few solos here or there. Would you pan them right and left? Or perhaps not all the way panned?

Keith
 
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Would you pan them right and left? Or perhaps not all the way panned?

Keith
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Absolutely. But I can't guess exactly what tone you are going for. That is up to you.

Give some samples when you get moving.

Also take a look at the 'New Tone Thread' here. A shit ton of information there.
 
jimmys69,

Thanks again. I'll get to it tomorrow evening after work and record a few scratch tracks with the methods you've suggested and post back tomorrow.

Keith:guitar:
 
jimmys69,

I know I keep saying this, but thanks for taking time out of your day to help me out. I did a scratch recording of just a riff with no harmonies or lead. I did not EQ it within the software. The only EQ was the graphic EQ and the virtual mixing board. Still, I have a lot of "flubbing" going on with the low end. I have a picture of how I miked the speaker and also a picture of the equalizer. Any suggestions?

Keith

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I think with my current setup it will just take a lot of work in the DAW.
 
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