new song , pretty heavy

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I am somewhat fascinated with this vocal style.
Especially in this song where you are going from the "thrashed" (excuse the terminology) type of vocal to a less harsh style , to an almost traditional vocal.
Now, if you perform this live, is that a problem?
Or is it simply done by more than one band member?
Sorry, no comment on the mix, I don't feel qualified for this style.

I will say that this seemed well thought out, and I know it isn't easy to play or sing in this style.

Quality work here.
 
Where is the bottom end? I can hear a bass track and drums but the low frequencies just aren't coming through. The song is interesting but lacks dynamics and punch. Probably just an eq issue.
 
My first thought was like Phyl's. I big-ass thumping bass part would really help this song.

Some cool stuff thought. What's that vocal effect?

Lots of energy. If this doesn't wake you up, you're likely dead. :)

The screaming vocals were distorted to the point of being inaudible. I'd work on tracking it differently. Perhaps a new mic that's not positioned so close to the singer?

I really liked how the song transitioned into (what I think is) the chorus. Good vocals and nice harmonies thru that section. They get covered a bit by the guitars. Those guits are taking up quite a bit of space. Might suggest you work on pulling back some mids.

Cool song.
 
hey thanks alot for the responses so far...

You know i have the hardest time with the low end sometimes.
First thing i did when starting recording was going out and
buying them ns10 monitors i saw everyone seemed to have.
In retrospect id probably go with something with a little more accurate low end , i mixed a song on a pair of those mackie hr828's , and the difference was pretty outstanding.
Im really not bitching about them they've done me ok so far , but i have the most awful time getting low end right , either way to high or way to little , i never seem to hit it. I'd add a sub but extremely broke right now.

TripleM , the vocal effect is just a plug in , i manged to get it with the anatares Kantos, most the stuff we do is much more electronic based than this so those kinda things interest me. I agree with the guitars i really appreciate the advice , thats another weak spot for me ive been really trying to work on the guitar aspect of recording. Ill deff try pulling out the mids seeing if it frees up that vocal.

Thanks alot again...
Gary
 
excellent screaming! I can appreciate a good sounding scream.. the whole mix sounds fuzzy to me and there is very little low end.. still cool though..
 
Kind of the Trent Reznor edge there on those trashy drums... Goth screams! Cool energy! SPIT OUT THAT LAVA!! :eek: :eek:

Your mix sounds too crispy... like you boosted the mix at 9kHz or there abouts... everything else is kind of ... squashed-the-hell-out-of? :D Compressed to the max, anyway.

Good song, great energy/emotion... most important element in any song, IMO.

Very cool FX on vox... like singing thru a fan.

No definition on any of the drums... the distortion on guitars may be too much... if you could re-track with a bit less on 'em... or tame them w/EQ you'd create some room in the mix for the drums to be heard

There's a lot going on in your mix... sounds like some of the tracks need to learn how to "share" ... right now, it's like a pile of cards instead of a house. Suggest giving each of the tracks a proportionate "slice"... each should get a piece of a frequency band to call its own... and nothing's been said about reverb, yet.

A mix of something this complex would take some actual "work" to get things to balance right. If I had the time, it would be cool to mix the raw tracks... (maybe sometime in late August, if interested...)

Anyhow nice song.


Chad
 
Hey participant , thanks for all that advice , wow lot to take in...

Im still relatively new , so still learning alot ...i genuinely appreciate all the tips though..gives me alot to think about/experiment with

Id deffinitely be interested in giving you the raw tracks sometime if you were interested , im not sure how it works if id send a cd or dvd or something with them on it. If you're still interested in late august or what not , you can email at gary@fallenmiracles.com with how id go about this.

Thanks alot
gary
 
Don't get rid of those NS10's just yet.....

This mix is is actually pretty good from the low-mids up considering the type of sounds used, and how much is going on in there. The vocal could be a bit louder though.

The trick to mixing the low end with NS10's is to actually look at the woofers to see how much they're moving. You can also reach up and touch 'em lightly with a finger to feel 'em.

Once you check your mixes on a few other systems you should start to get an idea of how much the cones should be moving. That and listening to some of your favorite mixes through 'em to get a feel for how they react. It is generally agreed though that they are not "pleasant" to listen to for extended periods. Take frequent breaks.

They are also very revealing of flaws in the amp. If your amp sucks, they will let you know.:eek:

NS10's are great for mixing low-mid up. That's why they're so popular. If your mix sounds good on NS10's, it'll sound good just about anywhere. The only thing they lack is low bass, and I just tipped you off on how to handle that.

I dig the tune. It does remind me a bit of NIN only heavier.:cool:
 
Very cool song, reminds me a lot of Marilyn Manson.

Same as Triple M, the best part of the song is the transition to the part with the backing vocals.

Snare drum got lost at times, lots of energy though, excellent job
 
HELL YEAH!!! This is the shizzy dude... I like.

you're losing me at the chorus though, where you try to throw in the harmony vocal... the intensity of the song kind of drops 'cause they're a little unsure sounding.. a bit flat in spots.

the screaming is totally on, i don't care if i can understand the words... it's all about the emotion and the feeling of the moment.

i wish the guitars sounded a little more real. double track a mic'd amp and mix them up right under the modeled sound to try to thicken up the sound a bit.

keep this up man... i'll be looking out for some more of your tunes.

edit: wow... looks like i got to this party late. :)
 
You call that heavy? :D:D:D Just kidding.

I liked the vocals too. What was that effect on them in the intro (and a few other spots)? Quite cool. I would like to steal it. :D It fits so well with the pussy-pop stuff I do. ha ha

Yeah it could use a little more kick from the bass. Maybe just a little EQ cut in the guitars to help the vox come through. Not that they're not right now, you could probably get them to cut just a bit better.

Good screaming. Couldn't understand a word of it though. I suppose that's the intent.

Cool.
 
never really dug

the electronic type stuff (nin etc) but the sections with the full on screaming is pretty cool. It sounds like your really throwing it down man. I can't offer any mix advice because im not on monitors right now but you definantly have some cool ideas going on here.
 
You many not hear much of this on this site, but that just makes you stand out, 'cause this is the s**t, my man. I go from Cyndi Lauper to the Stormtroopers of Death, and I appreciate it all. It's nice to hear some neo-death metal here. I'm diggin' it.

I don't have much to add to the other posts. They all said it well. I just wanted to comment and say don't be afraid to post the harder stuff. This pretty well rocked me, and I'd be disappointed if you didn't let us hear more.

I'll have to check out some of your other work. Nice job!

Piltdown Man
 
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