new song 'JacK'

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You are an excellent player with great phrasing skills and obvious superior dexterity. I like your lead guitar tone and think it is exceptional. how are you doing that?
The rhythm tone has gotta go, its not a bad sound but it doesnt fit the mix.
They tell me that mic placement and positioning is how to achieve control over those frequency issues but I cant seem to find a sweet spot myself.

I also like your electric jazz tone,which sounds pro to me, I think it was the top song on your page. How are you achieving that tone? Id really like to get something close to that out of my electric.

One more thing
whats with the abrupt end to the posts?

Peace
Bill
 
that s a very good little piece. The chordal structure is fine and the melodies you played with it. The bass and drums can work well with this playing the parts they have. A snare doing a pop-pop and crash right before few of the new lines would help in punctuation. The pro guys can give you tips on taming the amplitude spiking on the rythym and the lead. I really liked the tune, it could just use some more smoothing out in the levels and excite it a little more. There`s room for some soft pads or strings in the background on this too.
 
Kick sounds like a cardboard box and the pattern's dull as all hell.
the guitars sound beautiful but the rhythym could use some compression to keep out of the lead guits '"hair". I barely noticed the bass, this is obviously a guitar player's mix.

Nice playing
 
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The rhythm and leads sound similar which I think is causing the problem of differentiation. Maybe some compression would help. I also think tweaking the eq so they don't occupy the same "space", would help. Then again, I'm really talking out of my ass a bit.
 
ashulman said:
The rhythm and leads sound similar which I think is causing the problem of differentiation. Maybe some compression would help. I also think tweaking the eq so they don't occupy the same "space", would help. Then again, I'm really talking out of my ass a bit.
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Not at all, that was my exact thought, too similar.
 
Nice playing Dara!

If you doubled the acoustic,or recorded it stereo and panned it left and right away from the lead,I think that would solve a lot of your problem.
You could also play softer and it will sound much fuller,especially if you double it.

Better idea than trying to compress the heck out of the rythym guitar to try and tame it.
JMHOP:)

How exactly did you record this?

Good tune,did you write it?

Pete
 
wfaraon

Thanks for the ears. Both the lead and rhythm guitars were recorded the same way,- so yea, they both sound that same and sit on top of each other- I can change that, - could use an electric.

When I'm recording the acoustic I am always fighting the low frequencies and I find it difficult to hold the guitar in a fixed position while playing the hell out of it!

The lead tone is a yamaha acoustic -->sm57-->JM per vc3q with heavy attack/release, and flat eq. Guitar miked a tad below the sound hole.

..on the electric jazz tune; the guitar is an old SG, neck pu position, with a boogie dc3 amp close miked with heavy compression and minimum attack/release on the pre.

Sorry about the abrupt ends to the tunes, - they are all unfinished ' works-in -progress", and I have too many of them! when I press record I tend to start something new, rather than rework something else. Maybe when the ideas stop flowing I'l get a break!

thanks for the kind words,



Toki987

Glad you liked the structure. Yes, the drums need help and soft pads and strings would open out the sound stage. I guess I would like to achieve that openess with the guitars, I don't have a keyboard.
You always get a great soundscape on your recordings!

thanks man


jake-owa
Yea, the drum is a wavetable from the card, - ouch.
I am trying to keep the compression low as my recordings have alot of hiss and higher compression makes it worse.
"this is obviously a guitar player's mix" - never thought of it like that, - thats great input - thanks!
Glad you liked the guitars.

ashulman

I agree, - the guitars are sitting on top of each other. I didn't do much eq except for the low frequencies. There is some compression, but I'm trying to use it sparingly.

Thanks for the comments

muzeman

Two rhythm guitars panned is a good idea, - I did this on another tune (not posted) with elctric guitar and *thought* it sounded better/fuller..you just have to be tight with the playing!

Yea, I could also dial back the compressor, as its not a 'brick wall' and those peaks get through anyway. I'm hearing the word practice....I can do that.

...and yes it's my own tune

Setup:
-old M-audio DMan 16 bit card (4 years old) w/ a wave table, -thus the crappy drum sound.
-Sm57 into a joemeek vc3q pre
Yamaha acoustic miked a tad below the sound hole
Fender P-bass direct into the pre

glad you liked the playing


Thanks to everyone for all the input

dara
 
I listen through phones,

Man that's a nice tune, and playing!!

Now the nit, I noticed a little hiss, right before the music started, probably not heard through speakers, once the music starts, hiss gets drowned out.

Also seems like maybe you mp3'd a little hot?

Great work!!!

GT
 
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I liked the playing as well. Very good job.

Overall this is a very loud mix. I think it's causing your mix to sound a bit on the muddy side. You need a brighter sound on this type of sound I think. Some EQing of some of the lows out of the guitars and I think just simply pulling back some of the levels would help out considerably.

I'm noticing some clipping going on in spots.

Good song.
 
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