New old tune...

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I posted this a few weeks ago at about 3am on a Friday just for fun. At the time, it was a tune I had recorded last year with direct guitars and a lot less knowledge. Well, I decided to re-do it because I think (hope) it's a pretty cool tune. But, as usual, I'm posting to get adivce from fresh ears.

Some things I'm not sure about:

Too much sibilence in the vocals?

Is the high end harsh? I didn't change anything in my set up, but I find the cymbals might be a bit harsh. Maybe I'm just hitting them too hard.

Do the heavier guitar parts cut through? I find they get a bit lost. I tried alot of compression, very little compression, no compression, and still don't feel them biting me.

I think I'm happy with the rest, but if anyone hears anything they don't like about the drums, bass, vocals or overall ,mix...I'm all ears, no pun intended.

That 70's Song
 
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Cymbals might need some taming, but sounds pretty good. I like it, and don't have any real help for ya...
Ed
 
Hey, this is the song I love, love ,love!!!

I really like the geetars. And I agree with DOG about the cymbals, but only in a few places do they need taming.

Drums are great!

I like the feedback/sustain at the end of the song, but not anywhere else, especially at the beginning to around 1:40. Spank me for saying that!! :mad: Maybe you intended that!! Actually the only place I like it is at the end. I am listening now, for however many times!

This is such a rockin song RAMI!! :) :cool:
 
RAMI


You are a very talented musician.

I think the snare/kick could be a little louder. In fact I'd like the drums to have more presence throughout. But I'm perhaps the last person to give advice about such things.

I like your vocal performance, but I don't like the lyrics - they strike me as a novelty, and I think detract from the songs potential. It's cute, and it could rock.

I love the "ooh" and the "ooh yeah".

At 4:52 I love the breakdown - perhaps the drums could kick in a little later there in a halftime feel and then pick it up after the first vocal group.

You're an amazing talent.

-Casey
 
Thanx guys...

True...I'll think about turning down the feedback, but it's something I've always loved hearing in songs. If enough people tell me it's distracting or annoying, though, I'll have to re-think it though.

casey...I appreciate your comments. It's weird how one might hear things differently when they make the mistake of mixing right after finishing tracking. I could have sworn the drums might be too loud, but I'll give it a fresh listen tomorrow and hear it properly.
I know it's a "novelty" type song...but I like to look at it as a "tribute"...hehe...symantics. I think if I didn't have the type of lyrics in it that it has, it would be a dated sounding song, musically. This way, I like to to think it has a reason to sound dated. But there's no arguing that a listener will either love it or find it a bit corny.
Thanx for the comments so far.
 
I just listened to this back to back with the old version. Everything about this one sounds better... it's a striking difference - richer without booming, brighter without harshness.

Rami, you mentioned sibilance and yeah, I'm hearing it here and there. Got a de-esser? Other than that the vocal's great. Drums are exceptional. Bass is good. In less dense parts where the bass stands out it'd be nice to hear a little of its high end. Guitars sound very good to me as they sit in the mix, and they're well played. But the guitar high note at 6:13 is kinda flat to my ear. Oh, and FWIW I vote nay on the feedback effect.

Witty song.

Tim
 
Thanx alot Tim. You still have the old version??? Jesus man, you blow me away.

So, no feedback, huh? Well, if you have the old version, you'll probably understand that I was trying to replace the synth. I refuse to put keyboards in my songs any more. I want all guitars and that's the only way I was able to replace the sustaining synth note. Too bad it doesn't work. Damn!!! But I'm glad you guys tell me this or I'd think everything is hunky-dory. I really appreciate the comments. You gus are priceless to me. thanx,
 
Ok...I have to admit, the reason I mentioned sibilence on the vocals is because I tried out a plug-in I just realised I had. It's a "resonance filter". I put it at 20k and only set it to 5%, thinking it would be barely noticeable. But as subtle as that setting seems to be, it seemed to really "SSSSSS" out the vocals. I just wasn't sure if it was my imagination. But everyone that commented confirmed it for me. I just did another mix without it. I'm sure it's better. Thanx guys and girls.
 
This is soooo good. :)

One of the things that impress me about the lyrics, is that it must have taken you some time and effort, to put togather just the right titles in just the right order,to come out the way it did. And the choice you made to sound like ZEP in just the right places is excellent! The arrangement of this impresses me, for whatever that is worth. :D

Rami, have you considered the tone of the guitar on the feedback? A deeper tone might have a different effect. Just a thought.
 
True...did I mention that I think I love you.

OK, now on to more serious stuff. It's funny how easy this song was easy to write. It probably seemed like it was hard to find the right song title at the right place, but in a way, it was easy because all I had to do was think of a song or band from the 70's that had something to do with whatever I was looking for. I think it was easy, but I don't remember because I actually wrote this about 3 years ago. So I have no idea why I reponded to your post other than to tell you that I love you...hehe.
 
RAMI said:
True...did I mention that I think I love you.

OK, now on to more serious stuff. It's funny how easy this song was easy to write. It probably seemed like it was hard to find the right song title at the right place, but in a way, it was easy because all I had to do was think of a song or band from the 70's that had something to do with whatever I was looking for. I think it was easy, but I don't remember because I actually wrote this about 3 years ago. So I have no idea why I reponded to your post other than to tell you that I love you...hehe.
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:D My, my, my,my, my, my. Am I blushing? I never blush, but I do believe I am.
Please respond anytime!! :D :cool:

Why is there no FLIRT emot-a-con???
 
I didn't mind the sibilance at all... Helps the diction pierce through a dense sound, and man, you have a wall of it. I'm VERY impressed with your abilities, as I said before, and as a fellow "multi", you really have the nuances on every part down. It feels second nature, like you're not working hard to be good.. I will say though, I also vote nay on the feedback. It's past "tension builder" and into "distraction". Not by much though. If it had some motion, even a little phasing, or vibrato, it'd probably be a better fit. It doesn't cry out in loneliness, ya know? :) Love the breakdown at roughly 5 minutes in, but the solo drifted flat there...

Great stuff though, man, you are a clinic in multi-instrumentalist and vocalist recording.
 
Thanx Llarion, that means a lot to me.

Yep, looks like I have to re-track that weird solo in the middle...EVERYONE has noticed that it's out of tune. I guess the guitar went flat when I did that part and I didn't notice since it's a kind of a weird part anyway. I appreciate that it was mentioned because I might not have ever noticed. thanx alot.

Have to re-think that feedback too.
 
Don't hear a flat guitar part in that break...it's just a weird part. But then again, I'm tone deaf. I think this song is a masterpiece.
 
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Don't hear a flat guitar part in that break...it's just a weird part. But then again, I'm tone deaf. I think this song is a masterpiece.
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That is correct :D
 
RAMI.........your doing great, don't worry about what others think you should do with your sounds. There is always someone who wants to feel important and have you change to their way. Walk to the beat of your own drums, guitar, bass etc. Just do it the RAMI way. I love it. I have wondered what order you put down your tracks.......drums, bass, guitar, voice etc. It all sounds like a good smooth creation to me. Hay, that overdrive on the geetar gives the song a special treat.

Good Luck
Choctaw
 
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hey Choctaw...Wow! You must have pulled this thread out of page 10 or something, I thought it was long gone. I really appreciate your words and advice. I have to say, though, that the comments I got about this song from people were very good comments and helped me make it a btter song than it would have been had I not listened to some people. If you listened to the latest version, you'll notice that I faded the feedback in and out, it used to go all through the tune and was a little annoying. Also, I re-tracked the guitar that everyone but me noticed was out of tune. Thanx for listening and for the words of wisdom.
 
Yeah, Well, Rami, you're a mutant, you're too good to be allowed, know what I'm sayin'? :) :) Glad the thread is back, this song deserves to be heard!
 
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