New DIGI 003 RETURN BOGLER

[hexagramer]

HI!

ok i just bought a digi 003 rack, the new one with 4 mic pre's and 4 jack in's, with more than 8 outputs.

now i used to run my studio with a projectmix and iv done cd's here - myspace.com/producernickcasey

but i sold all that up and decided to buy a digi003 rack unit in the hope that it would add more depth and clarity to my music. i havent recorded anything or anyone in a seriouse session, but! i brought my hard drive with old recrdings and bought a behringer sfx2442 to bring out seperate channels back into the desk, and use the desk's outputs to go back into the digi003's 8 inputs, as returns.

so, when i done this i was quite dissapointed at the incapabilities of this interface. i routed my outs into seperate channels on the desk and iv gotten an AMAZING sound with the little effects etc. this was all good...but heres my problem: the digi003 cant exactly capture the desk's performance when i route the signal back into LE.

was i expecting too much off my rack? or is there something im doing wrong? the decibel level and loudness and intensity isnt the same.

was i very off in buying this 003? had i fooled myself into thinking i could have gotten a HD sound?
nick

 

[iownrocknroll]

Why would you be going out of the Digi 003 into a berhinger anything?

I could see on the way IN for extra pres.

but for "fx" I can't imagine is sounding good.

The 003 has line ins and outs, not inserts.

it's a great "recorder" when used like one.

 

[Richard Monroe]

I agree. I don't get it. There are better plugin FX in ProTools than anything you are going to get out of a Behringer box. All you are doing is lengthening your signal chain and degrading your signal.-Richie

 

[oretez]

HI!

ok i just bought a digi 003 rack, the new one with 4 mic pre's and 4 jack in's, with more than 8 outputs.

[snip]
decided to buy a digi003 rack unit in the hope that it would add more depth and clarity to my music. [snip]

had i fooled myself into thinking i could have gotten a HD sound?
nick

don't know what an 'HD' sound might be so can't respond to that in any way

reality is though that the best 'depth and clarity' any recording is going to have is in the initial capture. One can run it around the block and make it jump through hoops and in the process achieve, create, commit great art but you are not going to increase 'depth and clarity' ('clarity might or might not have some objective reference but if depth refers to anything but bit depth that is entirely subjective and virtually impossible for someone you are not copying point to point to suggest how you might achieve)

the 003 is probably a step up from the project mix (depending on how dependent you were on flying faders) but side stepping issues of content and performance for the moment, generally speaking 'depth and clarity' (in my guesstimate as to what depth might be) are functions of room and mic placement, followed by mic selection, followed distantly by mic pre's with converters (certainly at this price point) a long long way down the list

in my experience very little that falls in the fx column should ever be expected to improve depth and clarity a lot of fx were developed initially to deal with issues arising from room and mic issues: you got eight tracks printed to tape and 'oops' . . . $4k/day to retrack or let's try this! (a little ingenuity and wire) . . . or you can pay for a 60X75X20 no parallel surfaces room with hardwood floors and modes 'treated' or you can record in a closet and deal with inevitable 'issues' with a little ingenuity and wire

pretty soon the ingenuity and wire becomes conventional wisdom

main point here is what was the initial goal: where you trying to remix previous sessions? If so new hardward converters are the least of your concers . . . theoretically (given the range of readily available gear today) the goal of converters should be transparency . . . not 'color' (i.e. not 'impoved' depth (and improving 'clarity' is pretty much out of the running without retracking in any case) and it is possible, baring certainly possible grotesque interconnect issues, that is exactly what the 003 has delivered

 

[bramsaur]

ap audio matching patching system

I have the above patch bay and I would like to know the basics as to how and what it is used for. some diagrams would be helpful. definitions of normalized/de-normalized/half normalized would be helpful. I am involved with digital audio and midi. have sonar and reason, m-audio 410firewire sound card. would use with keyboard, guitar and vocals. nothing elaborate.
thanks,

Ben ramsaur