Neutrik patchbays - explain to a muppet

[noisedude]

I just bought a couple of Neutrik patchbays to get my stuff connected up nicely. Instead of those switches you get on the cheap ones, you have individual PCBs that you can turn around to get different normalisations etc. I don't understand the diagrams!!! And there isn't any kind of explanatory page on it on the Neutrik website.

Can anyone tell me which way round to put the PCBs to have normalised behaviour (i.e. outputs from mixer normalled to DAW inputs unless I do something with the front jacks) and how to put them for isolated action (no signal path unless I do something on the front)??

Here's a PDF with the diagrams on the top of the bays if that helps:
http://www.neutrik.com/images/ock/products/downloads/210_460038209.pdf

Cheers guys,

Nik

 

[NL5]

That's how they come. Top row should have black collars and bottom row should have grey collars on the front panel.

 

[noisedude]

That's how they come. Top row should have black collars and bottom row should have grey collars.

What's how they come? Does that mean they're normalled or isolated?

 

[NL5]

if both collars are black on the front panel they are de-normaled.

 

[NL5]

What's how they come? Does that mean they're normalled or isolated?

They come set up all normalled.

Look at the collars is the top row black, and the bottom row grey?

 

[noisedude]

And on the diagram on the top, it seems to say that black on top, grey on bottom is half-normalled (which I don't understand well enough to want to use yet!!).

 

[noisedude]

They come set up all normalled.

Look at the collars is the top row black, and the bottom row grey?

Yes that's right, so why is that half-normalled?

Excuse my slowness, I'm trying to get it!!!

 

[NL5]

Yes that's right, so why is that half-normalled?

Excuse my slowness, I'm trying to get it!!!

Because the signal is interuptable on only the bottom jack. If you plug a trs into the top row, it will still travel thru to the bottom - - splitting the signal.

 

[noisedude]

Because the signal is interuptable on only the bottom jack. If you plug a trs into the top row, it will still travel thru to the bottom - - splitting the signal.

So to isolate them, I just turn the card upside down, so the grey collar is top back?

Thanks mate, you saved me about three hours of head-scratching and trying combinations!

 

[NL5]

So to isolate them, I just turn the card upside down, so the grey collar is top back?

Yep.

I have the first 16 on each bay normaled with the pres to the converters on one, then the converter to the board on the other. The other 8 on each bay is isolated for my effects and stuff.

 

[noisedude]

Brilliant. Thanks again!

Nik

 

[MadAudio]

Patchbays are very handy. May yours one day look like this!

 

[noisedude]

Patchbays are very handy. May yours one day look like this!

I wish!!!