Need some songwriters for a short piece of online research

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Thanks very much to those of you who have done it so far.

Ido1957 - you might be right, there might end up being nothing in this, and I might drop it. However, that's the case with the majority of research into anything. Every so often something worthwhile will come from it.

I've done a similar study with a group of undergraduates, and almost all of them reported experiencing some pretty fucked up intrusive thoughts. When I showed the figures to a guy who can't play with his young son because he is so terrified of accidentally injuring him based on his unwanted intrusions, he couldn't believe that a bunch of normal students had similar thoughts. It was like a light bulb switching on for him. I'm hoping for something similar from this study, but maybe it won't happen, and that's a general risk with any research.

And Greg, I didn't know that about Joey Ramone, thanks!
 
That was fun but the logic puzzles started to bring on a migraine - honestly - the fact that I'm just home from work, tired, have lots to do & used the Qs are an avoidnace startegy set memup I hink then I had vsual retention of the patterns on my retina (that CAN help to solve puzzles funnily enough) so had to race through a bit to finish and hopefully get my med into me in time to avoid a BIG one.
I a chronic condition so it's not the fault of the test. I take daily stuff to stave them off but they bust on through a couple of times a week anyway. I'm thankful for imigran!
Sorry my typing certainly demonstrates that I'm on the way out!
 
Ryan- can you post the answers to the puzzles from the end of the survey?

Thanks!
 
Greg_L said:
Yup, that was me. I like symmetrical mixes for my own stuff. Well, for the major parts anyway. I don't mind a lead guitar panned off center or a tambo to one side, but the meat of the song - rhythm guitars, bass, kick/snare, vocals - gotta be centered or balanced wide. I'll probably never balance a guitar on one side and say a piano on the other. I'll do two guitars wide and put the piano somewhere in between. Basically I want all my mixes bookended with guitars. Big, stupid, loud guitars. :D

Is that OCD? Or just moronic stubborness?
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and, probably no surprise here, I don't care about symmetry on my recordings at all. I guess that comes from the fact that during some of my formative years musically, a lot of music was really experimenting with the then new 'stereo' thing.
I like for left and right to have similar energy levels but I don't care at all about having matching instruments and I very rarely use stereo tracking like on keyboards or such.
 
Lt. Bob said:
and, probably no surprise here, I don't care about symmetry on my recordings at all. I guess that comes from the fact that during some of my formative years musically, a lot of music was really experimenting with the then new 'stereo' thing.
I like for left and right to have similar energy levels but I don't care at all about having matching instruments and I very rarely use stereo tracking like on keyboards or such.
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I'm pretty much the same. I'm from the era of the hard panned bass and drums or instruments on one side, vocals on the other. So I never rule it out. I don't go for it as a default but I don't dismiss it either.
It's a funny thing but other than the bass being in the middle {I just hate the sound of my bass at the sides. It feels weird}, there are really no regular set in stone features for me. It's impossible to explain but I hunt around for placements that feel right, especially if played on something via headphones. Once the placements feel right in phones, then I can proceed. Sometimes I'm surprized where things end up !
 
I JUST got thru reading an interview with some well known producer who's name escapes me and I'm far too lazy to go dig thru my magazines to figure it out but he produces a lotta jazz recordings and has been around for quite a while.

HE says that one of the reasons that bass and kick got panned in the center during the early days of stereo was that the limitations of the vinyl and cartridges of the day meant it simply had to be in the center to have any impact.

And it became such a standard that even when vinyl/cartridge technology improved, and even when it switched to CDs, it was so ingrained in everyone that anything else sounds weird to most people.
He says he makes a point of panning them off to the sides some.
 
I know I'm being really subtle here, but I often put nothing except vocals dead centre, and put bass a notch or 2 (in the old days I had 16 motches each side) to the L or R. and just spread the kick and snare a notch either side etc. Not sure anyone ever noticed!
 
Armistice said:
I know I'm being really subtle here, but I often put nothing except vocals dead centre, and put bass a notch or 2 (in the old days I had 16 motches each side) to the L or R. and just spread the kick and snare a notch either side etc. Not sure anyone ever noticed!
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Low end instruments like kick and bass don't seem to be as sensitive to panning as other stuff is. I know for my typical sounds, I can pan a bass 10-20% L or R and it's barely noticeable. It still sounds mostly centered. Vocals or guitar panned that much is much more noticeable. Maybe it's something to do with low frequencies filling the sound field better? I have no idea.

For my typical mixes, the only things dead center are the kick and snare. In rock music, I feel that the kick and snare are the heart and driving force of a song. The "heart" of something is usually smack in the middle of whatever it's the heart of, so that shit stays in the middle. Then I put vocals and bass slightly off center to either side, rhythm guitars way, way out wide, and everything else in between. I like it that way. Sounds big.
 
Low bass notes don't pan well at all, they are non-directional due to the wave size. That's why surround sound systems have 1 subsoofer and you can place it just about anywhere in the room and the sound is the same.
 
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