Need Opinions... Heres My New Rock/Pop Song

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Heres a new song... My first one of 2002...

Digi 001, Sm57, POD.. Bass Drum and Snare-Boss Dr770.. All hats and cymbals and rides are live, Recorded with an Audix D2. Mexi-Strat, Fender Jazz Bass.

No console... Mixed on screen with a mouse... I actually enjoy that more... I don't miss using my console.

Onboard Digi Pre's (breakout box)

This is just a prelimenary mix... Sort of a rough Idea of what the real mix is going to end up sounding like.....

Your advice and opinions are greatly appreciated, to help me find my way to the final mix....

I respond good to all critism.... Don't be scared to tell me it sucks....

Thanks...
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I like this song... the song generally is really good IMHO.

Some of the levels & panning changes are a bit harsh... but damn the intro is pretty cool! I like this song.
 
Thanks.

Yeah, I totally agree with you......I was listening to it in my car today, and that part where the guitar pans back and forth just after the first chorus is a little bit TOO much...

I got overzealous with the Pro Tools Automation..

I might just end up centering that little riff.......

That begining...Well that took me a few tries before I decided to do it that way. Glad you though it was cool... It's my favorite part of the song.

Which levels exactly bugged you?

If you tell me, I will have another listen and see If I hear it also....

Thanks... Much appreciated.
 
well, using headphones the rythem on the "I never waste my time" (I think that's what you are saying) part is just a tad high. Using monitors it's not bad. I like the pan effect- I'd just tame it down a little, maybe not full left to right.

Anyway, I thought it was very catch right off the getgo. Good job!
 
blackbuck said:
well, using headphones the rythem on the "I never waste my time" (I think that's what you are saying) part is just a tad high. Using monitors it's not bad. I like the pan effect- I'd just tame it down a little, maybe not full left to right.

Anyway, I thought it was very catch right off the getgo. Good job!
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Your right... Through the monitors and in my car it sounded good... but, I just listened through headphones and yeah that spread is too wide... Good Call.

I still think im gonna center that back and forth part.. It's bugging me a bit.. One of them things you just live and learn from:)

I bet if I bring the acoustics a bit closer together they wont be so loud... I think it's the fact that they are so out there and set apart from the mix that makes them so noticable....

Anyways... thanks.... Im listing all this for the final mix...
 
I liked the song -- personally, I would bring out the vocals a bit more, maybe even reduce some of the reverb on them to make them come out from the mix. I didn't care for the percussion sound at the intro and ending that was sort of white noise-sounding (played out of the right channel), but that's just my personal preference. It also was on my computer speakers, so that may not have helped any... Good job!
 
What a great tune! I like it. I even like the heavy panning going on as I tend to overdo it a bit myself at times. I think the vocals could be a tad more forward in the mix though. Your vocals are good so don't try to bury them like I have to do mine. Great Job!
 
Listen #1: (through monitors) Wow. Sounds pretty darn good. Getting used to the song...

Listen #2: (with headphones to catch the panning stuff) Yeah, I hear what the others are saying but it doesn't really bother me. It wouldn't have stood out to me if I hadn't read it first.

Listen #3: (back to the monitors) Yeah, the rythmic sounds panning at the beginning is still distracting me a little. Sounds cool, though it draws the song out to wide and you notice it when it stops.

I actually like hard panning of the guits during the "I never waste my time" part- shifts the song around. Lets you know that the song is moving on and you should be paying attention.

Is there a different effect on the vox during "I never waste my time" part? It sounds different to me. Maybe its just because I can hear it more clearly then, but there's something about it that I'm not sure I like. A verb or delay that doesn't quite fit to my ears.

Listen #4: Wow. Good tune. I like this bbs 'cause of stuff like this. Makes me feel good getting to hear the creative work of folks all over the place.

Take care,
Chris
 
Thanks everyone.... I love this clinic...These replies really help a person to move forward..

Chris, The vox at the chorus, is actually layered and delayed... I copied the chorus vocal off in Pro Tools, and pasted a duplicate in a new track and nudged it a few mil's out of whack.... I wanted something to make the chorus beefier, yet I didn't want to do actual back-ups...I think they would have taken away from the acoustic... I will definately experiment with the rythmic panning at the front of the song, and see what happens....

Deadbeat, Yeah those vocals are a bit pulled back... I noticed that too... I didn't do it to hide my voice, I guess it just ended up that way, in the rough mix....

(Another thing for the list....)

Im going to wait a few more days to see if I get any more suggestions, and then Im going to apply alot of these Ideas and Upload a new version of the song....I will let you guys know when it's up...


THX
 
Good job, song's got a groove... mix-wise, thru my computer sound system the heavy guitar is maybe a little too prominent, vocals could come out more. You rock dude.
 
Hey Major Tom.....

This is ground control talking.... you betta listen! :D


Thanks for Compliments...... That might be your computer sound system... That guitar is pretty midrangy and I noticed on my laptop, it really cuts through...Just like you were saying... but in the car or in the studio it sounds right...

Thanks
 
Christ men, guys like me shouldn't be critiquing guys like you on anything! This thing sounds kick ass! Damn!

I guess the only thing I'd mention would be that the vocals could be boosted a hair. There is a lead part around 2:22 that sounds wacky to my ear, but everything else performance-wise is flawless. The panning that someone else mentioned didn't bother me, in fact I thought it was cool. I can see how it might be an annoyance in headphones, but screw that...its cool!

Great job man, I'm really impressed. I enjoyed this a lot.
 
Hmm, a couple more comments....

Yeah the vocals could be boosted a hair. The solo part could also be boosted some.

I've had a few other people listen, and they liked it too.
 
SUBMIT YOUR SOLO TODAY!!!!!

CMILLER

Thanks....

Alot of people have commented on the guitar solo.... It is very anti-climactic... I can do ok solos but Im just too lazy and yes I can come up with a sound, but never a "feeling" if you know what I mean.... And im not really into performing Ego-Solos...

I don't even play guitar properly.... I only use 2 fingers on the fretboard... I can't do proper chords...... I learned those 3 chorus chords on this song, just for the purpose of recording the song....

Ok, im going out on a limb now...... If any of you guys can write a guitar solo, for this song, and record it at 120 BPM...... I will apply it... Now of course I don't pay any salaries, but the person would get proper Credit on the liner notes of my future album release.....

As long as it's done in the Digital domain, and it's 120 BPM...(same speed as the song) I can line it up in Pro Tools...

Maybe we can have fun with this... If I get 5 or 10 solos from different people, I can post them all and maybe we will have a poll for which solo goes on the tune......
 
No man, don't change the solo...I didn't mean that I didn't like the solo. I like it. There's the note at the 2:22 mark that sounds a little strange, but the solo itself is fine. Believe me, I'm nitpicking here, but if you're going to post nearly perfect tunes, I reserve the right to pick on something damn it!;)
 
Heh, I like the solo... it's not what I would have done, but hell, that's what makes it yours man! I wouldn't change it...

But since you ask, maybe I will try one out tonight. Seriously when I hear it, I want to take leads...... not that I think you should use it. But the thought of my name being semi-associated with that tune..... that's pretty enticing.
 
Don't discourage him from improving the song!!!

--------none of us are perfect....


Very nice pop tone on the vocals; a agree that you should bring them up a hair. I also would consider adding a little more variety to the vocal line towards the end of the song.

Guitar solo definitely should be reworked. I would also work on (or maybe remove) the acoustic guitar sections. They sort of come out of nowhere (no pun intended) in the context of the song (i.e. full electric guitars with some distortion). I'm not saying contrast is bad, but it's like an altogether different recording is spliced in. Perhaps the first attempt is to try to get a fuller sound out of the acoustic.

Good work!!
 
CMILLER...

Even though I implied it, It wasn't your post, that made me think about solos, It's been on my mind for a few days and a few friends and colleques have mentioned the solo as a weak spot...

I knew you just meant the lead part throughout the song...:)

LI SLIM.....

Thanks.... yeah as I mentioned above the acoustic is still not totally finished (as in final mix)...im still gonna mess with it... EQ is ok, but the stereo field placment is still to be decided

I have to keep it though.. that was the whole point of the song... I came up with a sort of marriage between progressive pop/rock, and spanish style guitar

I love it... other than the intro, It's my fav part of the song..

:)


I am serious about the solo thing... give it a try guys.... I can't promise anything, but lets see what you guys come up with...

Thanks...
 
CMiller said:
if you're going to post nearly perfect tunes, I reserve the right to pick on something damn it!;)
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Classic line by the way... ROFLMAO!! :D
 
Vox,

Great song. I think this song blows away your previous songs. This one is really nice. I don't agree with the acoustic guitar not fitting with the song. I think it really presents a nice contrast and is one of the main reasons the song works.

How did you get that acoustic guitar sound. It is really sweet, especially for someone who only uses two fingers on the fretboard. How did you mic the guitar? What guitar did you use?
 
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