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The following is what i would like to do at home. What would you suggest.
I would like to be able to take music and delete vocals so i can use at church for people who want to sing solo perfomances to their favorate songs. I would like to be able to sing along at home and record my voice for practice. I have a lap top computer and thats about it.
 
Buying karaoke backing tracks is about all you can do...........

You can't convincingly remove vocals from most tunes, and even if you can get rid of the centre lead vocal, you still hear any backing vocals and lead vocal effects, as well as losing most of the centre channel rhythm such as bass, snare, kick.


Bruce
 
If you are doing pretty traditional stuff you might have some luck finding midi files that will play the instrumental version off your soundcard or other midi instruments.

You will need some midi software like Cakewalk to do this.
 
Cant wipe the vocals really sorry!
Get ur self some spare time and create some of the dreaded midi files!
U will need some sort of midi software I would recomend Cubase or Cakewalk what ever takes ur fancy they do the same thing and get hold of a Keboard with midi out and get a midi interface then u can create ur own backing tracks!
 
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You can't convincingly remove vocals from most tunes, and even if you can get rid of the centre lead vocal, you still hear any backing vocals and lead vocal effects, as well as losing most of the centre channel rhythm such as bass, snare, kick.


Bruce [/B][/QUOTE]

How do you get rid of the center lead vocal?
 
Take the stereo track... invert the polarity of one of the channels... pan both channels to center... bring up the fader of one channel... adjust the fader of the second channel to the point where the vocal level is reduced to almost nothing.

This won't work if you don't pan both channels to center, and of course, the polarity inversion is the key.

The signal you are left with is the L-R (left minus right) component of the stereo signal - which is the signal component that gives you your phantom stereo image.


Bruce
 
An augmentation of the method Bruce described is to first run the stereo track through a band pass filter saving just the frequencies between about 200Hz and 8kHz. Sharp high and low pass filters at these frequencies is even better than a band pass filter. This way your L-R only effects the vocal range.

Then you mix it back in with a duplicate stereo track which has the 200 - 8kHz range filtered out. Now, you've removed as much of the vocals as possible, not effected the bass, and the highs still retain some of the stereo effect.

barefoot
 
Howzabout.......

The legendary Thompson Vocal Eliminator. This has been advertised for years in the union newspaper. I doubt it works, but here it is:
http://www.ltsound.com/
 
barefoot said:
.....first run the stereo track through a band pass filter .....
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Correction:

Better to run it through the filter AFTER you have taken the L-R. This way you don't introduce any phase shifts which might degrade the effectiveness of the L-R center image cancellation. :)

barefoot
 
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