my vocal timing

[irkir]

Hi, i am really new to recording and am not an expert like most of you. Anyway, i quickly recorded a song today but i don't think i understand how to get the vocals to fit....did i accomplish it in one of my songs?


thanks so much and what a great resource center for rookies like me!

thanks so much,

Irkir

 

[Erockrazor]

Good job.

Yea your vocal timing seemed to be pretty good. I wouldn't complain about it. Try posting some of your work in the mp3 mixing clinic forum some time. You can get a more extensive review from a few people there. The vocals seemed to fit in that pretty well. Maybe a bit loud for my taste but its a good start. keep it up.

 

[irkir]

Erockrazor, thanks for checking my vocal timing. I know the vocals are a bit loud, just recording and mixing first. I really appreciate you taking the time to look at one of my samples.

With that said, is it true a verse has to be 16 bars in length and a chorus has to be around 8 bars? I was told by a dj that my timing was off, so I started to learn how to counting my bars 1 – 2 -3 -4 , 2 -2 -3 - 4, 3 – 2- 3 – 4, 4 – 2 – 3 -4. So, with that said, he told me to lay my vocal out every 4 bars to make the vocal fit. For example, I would start my voice on bar 4, then start another sentence at 8, then 12, then 16….sound right? I am really confused about this—any advice would be great.

When recording, I just let the music play and I try to sing along to it—good or bad?


Thanks so much!

irkir

 

[Erockrazor]

It's good to just sing whatever.That dj's a tool. Dont let anyone tell you how music should be, thats rubbish. Music has no predestined form. It doesn't even need to be rhythmic. Music is your own art. Famous painters arent made by painting in the lines, or musicians. Be different. please.

 

[Dani Pace]

Don't pay a lot of attention to the DJ that told you that line of crap. Music, like water, has to flow. Streams and rivers do not flow in set repetitious patterns, music doesn't either. Within a specific song you will have certain rhythmic patterns which reoccur, this same pattern will not apply to another song. In music you have what is known as "poetic licence" which grants you the freedom to break literary rules, and also means you can break the "block patterns" that limit creative writing. Songs are mainly poetry set to music, the meter of the poem and the meter of the melody do need to match and complement one another but there is no rule that says there has to be a specific count. Music would be pretty boring if we all had to stick to the same patterns or structure. Music is an expression of emotion and it takes a lot of vatiation to express the wide variety of emotions that music can convey.

 

[Sinistah]

Hi, i am really new to recording and am not an expert like most of you. Anyway, i quickly recorded a song today but i don't think i understand how to get the vocals to fit....did i accomplish it in one of my songs?


thanks so much and what a great resource center for rookies like me!

thanks so much,

Irkir

i cant hear the track from here (my day job) but sometimes if i'm a lil under the influence and kinda "off" my partner, clips and connects vocals, i have no real idea what he's doing, but when he does it, it places my vocals right on track, just yesterday he did it on my vocals and it made a big difference, from me wanting to dead the track to everyone approving of the verse......