My Two RE27's Sound Nothing Alike WTF??

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I was selling an old RE27 the past few days since I bought a very new one. Luckily no one had bid on my old RE27 yet because I just got the new RE27 and it sounds totally different in a very bad way.

Here is a sample of them. Why does the newer one sound so bad??? It looks different too. It's shinier and more textured.
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New one:
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Old one:
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Ordinarily you'd expect an older used mic to exhibit signs of loss at the extremes of the frequency spectrum.
You seem to be experiencing the opposite?


When you say new RE27, do you mean new to you, or new as in straight off a store shelf.
Are you buying from ebay?

Are both the mics "n/d"? According the electrovoice website there is an re27n and an re27n/d.
They don't appear to be different, but it's worth asking.

Another thing (I'm trying to confirm at the minute), is this.
The RE20 had various available impedance settings. They were selectable by some simple rewiring at the bass of the mic.

The re27 data sheet appears to use the same little circuit as the re20, but whether the impedance options are there or not, I can't be certain.

However, If you happen to have a mutimeter knocking around, you could test between pins 2+3 of both mics to see if that's anyway relevant.
 
new as in new to me. the seller said it was used slightly for some books for the blind and is in like new condition and performs as like new.

the other one the older one is at least a year and a half old from the seller and the cap at the base of it rotates back and forth a little bit. i dont know if that means it was opened and modified? but the old less shiny one is MUCH more clear than the new shiny one i got. the new one is the one with the pop filter on it just ot make it clear. it sounds like fucknig shit wtf goin on here im selling the bitch right now.
 
The following is taken from the OPs ebay listing.


"An Electro-Voice RE-27 N/D Dynamic Cardioid Microphone, in it's case, very slightly used in our Audio Books for the Blind Studio. You can reference the specs on this mic at coutant.com and scroll down to the Electro-Voice section. Cosmetically 100% like new and operates the same. Smoke free envionment. If you have any questions, please contact me.It will be well packaged for safe shipment. We want happy customers and a great feedback. Check our record. Happy Bidding. Thank you.

***SHIP ONLY TO UNITED STATES***"

If an item arrives in any other condition than described, you get a refund; You don't scam the next guy.

If the mic was sold as untested, spares/repairs, or working but with no reference or guarantee, then it's your problem, but you still don't scam the next guy.

I suggest you reword your listing.
 
Good on you, Steen for calling this guy out on the wording of his ebay listing. I was just going to add to your rep but apparently I've given you too much already.
 
i decided im keeping the old re27 and selling the re20 and new looking re27 i bought what a waste of time lol. i dont know wtf is going on but this shit is retarded. i am shocked, scared, and dont wanna know wtf just happened.

i clicked resell and copy pasted what they wrote on their listing, lol. i have no idea if its good or bad or anything. heh.
 
Please, at least be honest with the listings.

If you've no idea, say that, or put a link to a demo video.


Certainly don't put a link to the previous seller's description and have
"The item may have some signs of cosmetic wear, but is fully operational and functions as intended." in the listing.

Whether you realise it or not, you are now a scammer.




If that's how the original seller described it and you aren't happy, tell him. You have a returns period.

Either way, best of luck. I think I've given all I'm giving.
 
Shame on you Dream for copying and pasting the EXACT words. It's clearly different.
 
Did he even follow your advice the first time, and try to find out why it was not working?


When you tried to help he just said "I'm selling this bitch right now."
 
I don't think so. He did about the RE20 which turned out not to be broken.

If the RE27 has impedance options then that's my best guess, but as far as I'm concerned, you can't just stick it on ebay 'working as new' until you're sure.
 
Dreamcaseal said:
the new one is the one with the pop filter on it just ot make it clear.
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Did you do your test recordings with the foam head on one mic, but not on the other?

It's a stretch, but that could make the difference.
 
I wouldn't worry about the cosmetics. EV probably just wanted to switch things up or something. At the radio station I work at, we use RE27's and we have both the matt type finish and the chrome type.

Those are good photos, but didn't you say it was the chrome type mic that gave a bad sound? Care to show us the same type of photos so a comparison could be made?
 
CrowsofFritz said:
I wouldn't worry about the cosmetics. EV probably just wanted to switch things up or something. At the radio station I work at, we use RE27's and we have both the matt type finish and the chrome type.

Those are good photos, but didn't you say it was the chrome type mic that gave a bad sound? Care to show us the same type of photos so a comparison could be made?
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i sold my camera the other day. these photos are from the previous sellers i bought them from. i was rambling in the recordings pay no attention to what i was saying but yes the old one is the matte one and the new shiny one is the chrome one. i just didnt know how to explain their differences besides saying chrome and shinier chrome and i confused myself, lol. but yes the old matte one is the one with the better sound. the new chrome one is all messed up sounding in comparison. just really wtf? im paranoid if i buy a new re27 it will sound like the chrome one. i am really turned off of mics now and want to sell all of them and start over. at this point.
 
From those pictures, the wiring in the base of the re27 looks very similar to that of an RE20.
RE20 has three points you can tap into for different impedances.


The re27 engineers datasheet shows three points on a schematic with different ratings in ohms, so I'd say it's definitely a possible reason for the difference in sound, and at very least, something to investigate.

You say the older microphone has a loose base? That's a possible reason to believe it's been opened. EV mics are built like car engines!

BTW, that's very easy to tighten. One small screw releases the xlr socket (might be reverse thread, be careful).
Once that's out, there's a bolt in the base that you just tighten up.


Do you have a multimeter?
 
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no i dont have a multimete. i opened my old re27 xlr socket. what kind of screw driver do i need for that screw in there?
 
Dreamcaseal said:
no i dont have a multimete. i opened my old re27 xlr socket. what kind of screw driver do i need for that screw in there?
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Are you talking about the nut that runs in line with the length of the microphone?
I can't remember off hand, but I've a feeling it might be a torx.
It's in the data sheet IIRC.

Again, I strongly suggest you remove your listing on ebay until you know more, or modify it to reflect the truth.
 
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