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Greg_L
Banned
Cool...got any sounds recorded yet?
Yeah but nothing too serious. I have to put something in this kick drum until I get some different heads on it. It booms a little too much. The toms are LOUD.
Yeah but nothing too serious. I have to put something in this kick drum until I get some different heads on it. It booms a little too much. The toms are LOUD.
Seafroggys
Well-known member
Nice set, get rid of those B8 cymbals though, those things are killing me!
(trust me I played on a whole B8 set in one of my old bands, and I hated their sound)
(trust me I played on a whole B8 set in one of my old bands, and I hated their sound)
PhilGood
Juice box hero
Just curious, have you ever tried playing with the hi-hat and crashes lower? They seem very high to me. YMMV. Looks like a fun kit, BTW.
Cheers,
Otto
You think those crashes are high?
Their pretty low in my book.
Nice kit Greg!
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Greg_L
Banned
You think those crashes are high?
Their pretty low in my book.
Nice kit Greg!
Thanks bud.
The crashes are only about 8 inches above the top rim of the rack toms. If I put em any lower I'll probably hit the toms with my full-swing cymbal bashing.
liv_rong
Knows very little
nice kit!!
i need to invest in some new ones as soon as im ready to stop buying audio gear hahaha.
those cymbals are really high for me, i cant play on stuff that high. i hear what your saying about hitting hard and not doing much high hat work. i could not play adequetly with those set so high though.
for example, here is where mine are set to, excuse the dust haha:
i need to invest in some new ones as soon as im ready to stop buying audio gear hahaha.
those cymbals are really high for me, i cant play on stuff that high. i hear what your saying about hitting hard and not doing much high hat work. i could not play adequetly with those set so high though.
for example, here is where mine are set to, excuse the dust haha:
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Greg_L
Banned
Lol. Those are the dirtiest drums I've ever seen.
Yeah I could never play with my hats that close to the snare. I'd drop sticks, break my arms, shit my pants, etc. I like my ride pretty low - right over the floor tom - but my hats gotta be somewhat high.
P.S. - I think it may be time for new heads.
What kind of kit is that?
Yeah I could never play with my hats that close to the snare. I'd drop sticks, break my arms, shit my pants, etc. I like my ride pretty low - right over the floor tom - but my hats gotta be somewhat high.
P.S. - I think it may be time for new heads.
What kind of kit is that?
liv_rong
Knows very little
those are some crappy no name drums. Percussion Plus or someething, made in taiwan. i got them used a few years ago from a friend for 200 bucks, came with all the crappy hardwarea and cymbals.
i just use them to practice, or when the occasional person comes by to jam.
they really suck, i would never consider them to record at all. they do the trick for practicing, ive never done anyhitng to them since i bought them, and i still owe my buddy cash for them all these years later haha.
it just shows how crappy they are that he never really wants the rest of the money.
i used to have anohter cheap kit years ago, but i had an old vintage snare and floor tome, good cymabls and hardware, they actually were a good set. i sold them for like 400 bucks with hopes of saving a bit for better ones, but as you might have guessed it didnt work out like that.
since then i got sucked into guitar, moved to placed were i couldnt play much drums, and also started buying recording equipment. now im at a stage where i want some better drums so i dont have to transfer projects over to other friends home studios to track my drum parts.
eventually ill get new ones, but theat opens another flood gate of shit to buy, new drums, new mics, new cables, new pre's, new mic stands.....lots more money hahaha.
i just use them to practice, or when the occasional person comes by to jam.
they really suck, i would never consider them to record at all. they do the trick for practicing, ive never done anyhitng to them since i bought them, and i still owe my buddy cash for them all these years later haha.
it just shows how crappy they are that he never really wants the rest of the money.
i used to have anohter cheap kit years ago, but i had an old vintage snare and floor tome, good cymabls and hardware, they actually were a good set. i sold them for like 400 bucks with hopes of saving a bit for better ones, but as you might have guessed it didnt work out like that.
since then i got sucked into guitar, moved to placed were i couldnt play much drums, and also started buying recording equipment. now im at a stage where i want some better drums so i dont have to transfer projects over to other friends home studios to track my drum parts.
eventually ill get new ones, but theat opens another flood gate of shit to buy, new drums, new mics, new cables, new pre's, new mic stands.....lots more money hahaha.
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Greg_L
Banned
Man, I'll probably get some shit for this, but I don't care. Crappy drums can record well. Before I got the Mapex's, I used a super old early 70's Rogers kit. I bought em used for 200 a few years ago just for fun because at that point I hadn't played the drums lin like 10 years. I had to rebuild the lugs and smoothed and "shaped" the bearing edges by hand. I put some good heads on them and they sounded surprisingly good. I ended up joining a band and getting into recording and after a hundred or so gigs and daily pounding, they still sound pretty good. If you play well and give em a little extra TLC, junky drums can sound pretty good.
drossfile
nope
i've been wanting a brass snare ever since i fulfilled my lifelong quest to acquire a free-floating maple piccolo. can't wait to hear what you think of yours.
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Greg_L
Banned
Gorty
New member
BushmasterM4
Well-known member
Nice kit. I hope you kept the old set for gigs and use the new ones at home only. Dont want to tear up the new ones.
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Greg_L
Banned
Nah these are gonna be gigged. I have cases for them.
PhilGood
Juice box hero
I'm not gonna disagree with this at all!
My first kit (25 years ago) was a sparkle blue "Tempro" that I bought for $50 and added drums as I went along. I did the same thing, cleaning and rebuilding the lugs, an re-worked the bearing edges, put new heads on it, and it sounded good!
Surprisingly good!
I acquired a 14" tenor drum from the 40's or 50's that was all beat up. After rebuilding it for my 14" tom it recorded amazingly well.
liv_rong
Knows very little
i used to record my other no name kit with good results. though, i had better snare and hardware, also better cymbals. the only reason i have never tried working on getting good recorded sounds out of my kit is, it sits in a basement. there are heating ducts, a huge emtal furnace, cement walls and floor etc. etc.
it would be a nightmare to get something to sound good in that environment, i have tried it before with my last drums, and it doesnt work. so untill i have a house, i must stick to going to other places to track drums.
its a real shame too actually, recording the drums is my favorite part of tracking my songs
it would be a nightmare to get something to sound good in that environment, i have tried it before with my last drums, and it doesnt work. so untill i have a house, i must stick to going to other places to track drums.
its a real shame too actually, recording the drums is my favorite part of tracking my songs
Lectric_Lab
New member
I agree with the no names sounding alright in the studio, I had a pieced together crap set I pulled from here and there, pawn shops, adds, not a mtching work of art by no means, but with some good heads and a muff here and there sounded pretty good...I took the whole kit cymbals et al a couple weeks ago to my G'son, he loves it with an old metal snare.... I kept my 70's Ludwig vistalite that I have owned since new, aint that great but ya know how keepsakes are.
btw very nice new kit!
btw very nice new kit!
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ofajen
Daddy-O Daddy-O Baby
How do you rework the bearing edges? My home made drums could stand to have truer bearing edges, but I'm not exactly sure how to do it. Probably need to break down a buy a router and some appropriate bits.
Cheers,
Otto
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Greg_L
Banned
Well I'm no drum pro, but I would think that if you need major surgery, you'd better get it done by someone that knows something about bearing edges. Mine were just nicked and had some inconsistencies. I did my best with a file, sandpaper, and micrometers. The drums sounded much better afterwards, but I didn't do a whole lot. Just some gentle massaging.
PhilGood
Juice box hero
This is how I did it. This might not be how you want to to it.
My bearing edges were old and beat up, so I figured it couldn't hurt. My Dad had a large table saw with a nice machined flat surface. I'd put the shell on it and shine a flashlight inside the shell and looked to see if light would show through on the outside. If I saw a gap, I'd take the shell and carefully spin it on the concrete floor to sand it down to be flat and level. I'd keep doing this until the gaps were gone. Then I'd paint just the areas that had been flattened down by the concrete. Then I'd carefully file the bearing edges down until that painted area was a little pinstripe at an even distance all the way around the shell, making sure to keep the angle of the bearing edge consistent. Then I hand sanded it to make it smooth and even, then ran some paraffin wax around the edges and buffed them.
Viola!
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mrface2112
Well-known member
man, some of those old Rogers kits (like the Big R ones) are really excellent drums. sounds like yours were pretty abused, though.
cheers,
wade