My New "Custom" Snare

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I went into the studio and they had a Vintage Metal Snare with the "Internal" Deadner and from then on, I WANTED ONE! I went on eBay and found a Vintage 6.5" X 14" Tama Metal Snare for $60 with the Internal Deadner. I wanted a Black Snare with Tube Lugs so I stripped the Hardware off, Steel-Wooled the shell to get the Rust off, and sent it off the get Powder Coated ($30!!). Bought the Tube Lugs and Vent Hole Cover for about $60. What I then found out was the lug holes in the snare were about a 1/8 cm to short. Soo I took a dremel and carfully shaved the hole out. Then put it all back together, and had a Custom Snare for about $160.
 

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that looks mighty fine...

nice job, i would love to do something like that, if only i had the $ :(
 
Why in heavens name would you want an internal muffler?!?!?!

When I Was growing up - all drums had them in them, and you know what we called them? Extra crap to rattle and make noise!

I must have removed a thousand of those things from drum sets.

I even had one set that had them on both the top and bottom of the drum.

That said, the new snare looks killer! Where did you have it powdercoated? Was it local to you, or did you have to mail it somewhere?

Any decent sized shop that does electrostatic painting should be able to do it, but I'm just curious - that's a pretty good price on that.


Tim
 
First Off Tim Brown, Metal Shells always have WAAAY TOO MUCH Ring too them. Soo with the internal muffeler, I can make the the EXACT amount of ring I want (Depending on Style and Taste). *Everyone asks that*

Seccond, I got the drum powder coated from Powder Perfect (Not local) There website is http://www.powderperfect.com/
 
I have that exact snare, and I've noticed that it really takes a decent player to make it shine and it is a bit ringy but that muffler really does help and when the right person plays it I really love it's sound.
 
fivesixonesk8er said:
First Off Tim Brown, Metal Shells always have WAAAY TOO MUCH Ring too them. Soo with the internal muffeler, I can make the the EXACT amount of ring I want (Depending on Style and Taste). *Everyone asks that*

Seccond, I got the drum powder coated from Powder Perfect (Not local) There website is http://www.powderperfect.com/
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I use an 8x14" Brass Free floating shell made by Pearl - I'll guarantee you it has more natural ping than the drum you have.

So how do I tame it? Not with one of those things! :eek: :p

I use a Remo Clear Pinstripe on the top and an Aquarian #HPSN14 which is a "High Performance Snare Side". I have a Microphone and two triggers mounted inside my snare. :D



Tim
 
Pretty nice, dude. Not my style, but hey--that's what customization is all about--getting what you want. Congrats on a finely produced project!
 
would a metal paint work on something like that? Cause i bought a kit for £35 about 6 months ago, and actually really like it. The snare's almost exactly the same as that one and it kinda makes the kit look a bit cheap(which it is, i know), but seeing your pics 561s8r, i know that if i did that it'd look like a much better kit.
 
You'll have a heck of a time getting paint to stick to a chrom'd surface. You'd probably have to have it sand blasted or etched or something then primed with a heavy duty primer to get the paint to stick. The powder coat is tough and durable.
 
Nice looking retro on the steel shell!!!

I'm with Tim Brown, internal mufflers were a poor concept. I too have removed many over the years. I can't understand why anyone would want upward pressure on the batter head (not to mention the extra potential for rattle). There are waaaay too many improved options with heads, moon gel, etc. etc. to want or need an internal muffler.

But if it works for you, that's what matters - in any case a "custom" snare for $160 is a deal and the personal satisfaction that comes from a well done project - - - - "priceless"
 
Thanks for all the great feedback..... The only thing I DONT like about it is the little ribbs in the shell. I originaly wanted a Wood Snare w/ a Black Stain, but once I heard the Metal Shell at the studio, I fell in Love.

I acctully wanted to look into seeing if I could get a VERY THIN wood shell to just bearly fit and glue around the metal shell soo I could get the sound of a Metal Shell but the look of a Wood Stain....(I know theres snares called Hybrids but they are like 1/2 &1/2)
 
fivesixonesk8er said:
Thanks for all the great feedback..... The only thing I DONT like about it is the little ribbs in the shell. I originaly wanted a Wood Snare w/ a Black Stain, but once I heard the Metal Shell at the studio, I fell in Love.

I acctully wanted to look into seeing if I could get a VERY THIN wood shell to just bearly fit and glue around the metal shell soo I could get the sound of a Metal Shell but the look of a Wood Stain....(I know theres snares called Hybrids but they are like 1/2 &1/2)
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Yeah,. you could have gotten a piece of wood veneer and glued it to the outside of the shell, but it would have cost a heck of a lot more than $30!


Tim
 
punkin said:
You'll have a heck of a time getting paint to stick to a chrom'd surface. You'd probably have to have it sand blasted or etched or something then primed with a heavy duty primer to get the paint to stick. The powder coat is tough and durable.
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Don't have a clue where i'd be able to get it powder coated though, so i'll just leave it, lol.
 
pandamonk said:
would a metal paint work on something like that? Cause i bought a kit for £35 about 6 months ago, and actually really like it. The snare's almost exactly the same as that one and it kinda makes the kit look a bit cheap(which it is, i know), but seeing your pics 561s8r, i know that if i did that it'd look like a much better kit.
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You could take the snare apart, and sand the shell with an electric hand sander, and once you have the shell sanded - and we are talking a project that would take at least a week - you are going to have to completely scratch the entire surface in order to have the coating stick.

Then you would wipe the shell in apple cider vinegar.
That will help etch the metal a bit more, as well as completely remove any light metal particles from sanding.


Then you would have several options.

You could use a 2 part epoxy to paint it.

You could have a local car shop paint it. They would paint it with a finish just like you would see on a car.

You could look for a shop that does electrostatic painting. "esp" is how they paint filing cabinets and even washer and dryers and home refrigerators.
Electrostatic painting is where they connect an electric negative wire to the piece of metal they intend to paint - in this case your metal drum - and the positive wire goes into the special paint sprayer and charges the paint.
This was there is no "overspray - all of the paint is "magnetically" or "electrically" attracted to the metal drumshell, and it forms a seamless, spotless, coating that should be almost like glass once it's hardened.



Tim
 
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Hey Man,
Nice job you done there although I think that snare looks pretty nice the way it was!
(looks a little like a Luddy 402 as used by Bonzo - nuff said!)
 
Tim Brown said:
You could take the snare apart, and sand the shell with an electric hand sander, and once you have the shell sanded - and we are talking a project that would take at least a week - you are going to have to completely scratch the entire surface in order to have the coating stick.

Then you would wipe the shell in apple cider vinegar.
That will help etch the metal a bit more, as well as completely remove any light metal particles from sanding.


Then you would have several options.

You could use a 2 part epoxy to paint it.

You could have a local car shop paint it. They would paint it with a finish just like you would see on a car.

You could look for a shop that does electrostatic painting. "esp" is how they paint filing cabinets and even washer and dryers and home refrigerators.
Electrostatic painting is where they connect an electric negative wire to the piece of metal they intend to paint - in this case your metal drum - and the positive wire goes into the special paint sprayer and charges the paint.
This was there is no "overspray - all of the paint is "magnetically" or "electrically" attracted to the metal drumshell, and it forms a seamless, spotless, coating that should be almost like glass once it's hardened.



Tim
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Sounds interesting, but I'm a lazy bastard, so if i start it i won't finish it, lol. Might give it a go sometime. Thanks for the detailed response.
 
pandamonk said:
Sounds interesting, but I'm a lazy bastard, so if i start it i won't finish it, lol. Might give it a go sometime. Thanks for the detailed response.
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Spoken like a true Scot! :p Hahahaha

My family's Scottish - so trust me, it's a trait. I start shit I never finish all the time. :D


Tim
 
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