My latest drums

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Here's my latest salvo in the battle for big, funky rock drums. After coming across LeeRosario's killer post, I was anxious to try that mixing technique.

I just needed a drummer.

BBQ & beer fixed that! My daughter and son-in-law/drummer came over last Saturday, and he was more than willing to bang around on the kit a bit:



(I know, I know--how does it sound in a mix? It's late. Too late for playing guitars, but I'm impatient. So I'm posting it anyway. :) )
 
I think it's pretty good. It seems to be a little right-channel heavy and there's some phase issues with the snare. I hear it dancing around a little from center to right. Is the snare gated? It sounds like some of the ghost notes or accents are getting cut off and they only pop through the right channel of the overheads. Or maybe my ears are crazy this morning. The sounds are pretty good though.
 
My computer speakers are heavy on the right channel, so I can't give it the same critical listen Greg did, but my impressionistic reaction is it sounds pretty good- I like the amount of ring or reverb the recording has, I think it will sit very well in a mix. Thanks for sharing.
 
So how does it sound in a mix? Like this:



Whaddya think?
 
I think there are a few timing issues, and the snare isn't centered, it's a little to the right. Other than that, I like the sound of it. The kick has a nice slap to it, the snare sound is good , and the hi hat action sounds nice too. How many mics are you using and how do you have them set up?
 
saads said:
I think there are a few timing issues, and the snare isn't centered, it's a little to the right. Other than that, I like the sound of it. The kick has a nice slap to it, the snare sound is good , and the hi hat action sounds nice too. How many mics are you using and how do you have them set up?
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Thanks for the input saads. If you're so inclined, check out the thread in the clinic and let me know if they sound any better (latest mix is at post #17):

https://homerecording.com/bbs/general-discussions/mp3-mixing-clinic/new-drums-326682/

As far as mics, here's my setup:

D112 on kick
Audix i5 on snare top
Sennheiser e609 on snare bottom
GLS ES57's on all three toms
ACM 310's (off brand tube SDCs) on overheads
CAD M177's as room mics--about 12 feet apart, and 12 feet out in front of the kit.

If you read the LeeRosario's post that I referred to in my opening post, you'll see that I was trying out a specific method he described--it combines the recording of the performance with samples of the same kit from the same session.

The performance is pretty much what you'd expect: combination of the the close mics on the kit and the overheads. The samples that I layered in were a combination of the close mics and the room mics.

I compressed & gated the shit out the performance tracks--that gave me the punch and attack I wanted. But I didn't add any compression to the layered in samples (in fact, I added a bit of reverb on a couple of those)--that gave me the body and "boom" that I had been previously missing. I'm still on the learning curve, but I'm encouraged. And while it's certainly more time consuming to create sampled tracks to go along with each individual drum, I'm finding that the combination gives me tons of flexibility in terms of adjusting the sound after the session.
 
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