My friend's song... can you mix it? Two tracks, acoustic and vocals.

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I'm using Adobe Audition 2.0 and we recorded this just last night. I was just wondering if anyone could maybe mix this and see what they could do with it. I have no money to offer... but I would appreciate some advise. I have issues getting stuff to good volume and still keep its dynamics and all that. There are only two tracks, vocals and acoustic guitar.

Thanks, here are the files:

http://jndietz.toastednet.org/mix.zip
 
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There is a lot of bleed, i.e. the two tracks are very similiar. The levels are very low.

Not sure what you are asking. I loaded both in Sonar and Cranked it up very loud so I can hear it. There isnt really anything to "mix" really. What are you using to do this?? Computer sound card??
 
Well, I was always under the impression that we record at about -18 dbFS, which is what those tracks should average out at about. I guess I'll record hotter next time. I'm using the gear in my signature, the Behringer input, mixer, and the MXL mics. Is there anyway to eliminate bleeding when you are recording something like this?
 
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Well, I was always under the impression that we record at about -18 dbFS, which is what those tracks should average out at about. I guess I'll record hotter next time. I'm using the gear in my signature, the Behringer input, mixer, and the MXL mics. Is there anyway to eliminate bleeding when you are recording something like this?
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I cant even SEE the tracks. Really, I had no idea anything was actually on them until it gets louder at the end.

Bleed? Seperate the sources and the mic angles to reduce it. The sources ( guitar and vox) are probably moving, staying still would help. The volume is all over the map. Compression may help, but really you need the performance itself to be more stable volume wise. At times the guitar gets very far from the mic.
 
Interesting song. I like it.

thoughts:

1) sound is good but avg levels of the files are too low. Problem lies in both performance consistency and gain staging.
2) mic the gtr differently. Very boomy
3) the gtr's out of tune during the hard strumming.
4) vox track has some distortion. Watch the mic technique.
5) each track has bleed that's out of phase with the other mic. You need to track the parts one at a time, or use mic's that have a tighter pattern to avoid that, or use a coincident stereo technique to record the live performance.

Suggest using a high pass filter on the guitar, some volume automation to adjust the levels, a little compression on the vox, and a bit of verb to put the performance in a room.

Quick mix: http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=5748
 
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I was listening to NL5 and am quite interested in attempting to mix this myself, but my studio is down so I'll have to attempt to mix it on my parents PC, no garantees on quality,

alot of problems that you seem to have in this mix is what I usto have to, only you have better equip, so I'll give it a shot myself.
 
I started mixing, got the guitar finished, and vocals up to "my prison" I have posted, but lightning mp3 is taking forever to send me an e-mail...
if anyone knows a better posting site...
 
Forget my mix.................
I just looked at my monitor mixer and noticed that the EQ's are not zeroed out..
:mad: :( :mad: :( :( :mad: :( :eek:
I was wondering why Tim's and NL's mixes sounded thin I had the low end rolled off. :eek: along with sone other cuts.

I may give it a shot later.
 
I have to admit that I am so impressed.
I was interesting in the song and did not intend to mix it by myself so I listened mixes made by the others.
Then I got curious and decided to download the tracks.
Wooooooooooooooooooouu. What a surprise!
How is it possible? Nice job guys! Incredible!

Now about song:
Very interesting and special song from several aspects.
I liked singing a lot.
Only thing you have to do is retrack it. Guitar performance can be improved.
sikter
 
So I'm using Audition... I'm trying to figure out how to get it to sound as good as your guys', but I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Everything I try, it clips, and shit, half the stuff I don't know how to use properly--especially the dynamics processing, the multiband compressor, and the hard limiter.
 
Hmm, I've never used Audition before, for my mix (since I'm using my parents pc) I've just used Audacity and goldwave (both free)

my suggestion to you is keep the volume quite low untill your done mixing, than pull it all up. thats what I did (thats why my mix is so soft) and it can really save your ass when mixing 10 tracks at a time.

hope this helps.
 
ok here is my "finished" version Play:1165537007-Steve Guitar A2.mp3

but the more I listen to it, the more I don't like the vox (my edit, not his voice) But I'm on headphones and am quite buisy at the moment. so I will leave it at this. hopefully it'll give you some Idea's
 
ok you ask for it. :rolleyes:



The guitar has gone totally bezerk couldn't really control it :eek:

it's perfect now!! Now Plain !) :D
 
jndietz said:
Well, I was always under the impression that we record at about -18 dbFS, which is what those tracks should average out at about. I guess I'll record hotter next time. I'm using the gear in my signature, the Behringer input, mixer, and the MXL mics. Is there anyway to eliminate bleeding when you are recording something like this?
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I think you misunderstood the -18dbFS thing. On recording analog to digital when your recording 0 dbVU in the analog world should average about
-18dbfs in the digital world if everything is set up at unity gain. Meaning you shouldn't have to use any gain except for you preamps, but your peak should still reach upto -12dbFS to -6dbFS.

The point is so you have enough headroom so you can do a mix that will less likely clip your digital meters which is really bad sounding.

The mastering stage is usually the last stage of making the sound as loud as possible as well as fixing very minor imperfections in the tone quality of the song.

I'm sure someone like southside Glen can explain it better than me.
 
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