My drummer needs help......(rant)

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Matt303 said:
[in all cases I (and the other instaumentalists) know the drum patterns and grooves better than the drummers because we learn them. Why the hell should I pay the drummer the same when they put no work into learning the material when the drum machine comes for free, can keep time, doesn't monopolise the stage when setting up and it not shit faced by 10 pm? [/B]
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Ha Matt that sounds familiar-It's hard to find that drummer who can interpret what we think are the obvious beats that the tune suggests. The one I have can't-but on a technical level, he's the best player in the group-kinda wierd...When I see a group with a great drummer-who can both take charge and lay back-plays With the other players and for the song, the band is always great-regardless of style. Those guys are hard to find....

Machines do sound pretty damn good-but it's kind of a cheat-if you want your recording to resemble the sound of your band...A drummers sound should be part of the band-like Stew Copelands snare-John Bonhams bass drum-Neil Pearts toms....(my boy can't tune 'em either)......As well as their touch-amazing how many different sounds are at a drummers disposal.

Anyways-my guy is doing ok....He knocked out like 3 drum tracks in a week-then spent 3 weeks on one-after I finally went in and played an acceptable version-it "inspired" him to basically ape my version (with a little better rythm-better rolls-but still less touch).........so maybe we're making progress.....(good thing I grew up with a drummer/drums in the house)......
 
I'm sorry but I couldn't help but notice how much this thread reminds me of something like "my girlfriend talks too much but I love her, how do I get her to shut up without hurting her feelings?"

I'm not trying to make fun of anyone Its just that this thread reminds me of how much band members or jamming buddies and significant others can be alike. I mean when you're in a band its like being married to 4 other people. It can be tough. Theres always gonna be something that bothers you about a band member. As they say with relationships, look at the good before the bad, and go from there. Just make sure they aren't jamming around on you (lame joke, laugh now).

But hey, about the no creativity thing, if you can get him to follow a click you'll be able to do some mean Rammstein covers.

*kick-hat-snare-hat-kick-hat-snare-hat-kick-hat-snare-hat-kick-hat-snare-hat-kick-hat-snare-hat-kick-hat-snare-hat-kick-hat-snare-hat-kick-hat-snare-hat-kick-hat-snare-hat-kick-hat-snare-hat-kick-hat-snare-hat-kick-hat-snare-hat-kick-hat-snare-hat-kick-hat-snare-hat...
 
Hook up a car battery triggered by a drum machine to his nuts and if that don't work, tell him he sucks and is a piece of shit and should get his money back from his instructor who has ripped him off for years and find out if he's been fuckin your girlfriend and kick his ass and then tell him he's not a "drummer" but only a person who has drums.
 
alonso said:
Hey Matt, i always thought the lazy bastards of the band were the singer and the guitar player, the one who always get there late and think they are better than anybody else, and that they dont need to practice
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I Can't agree with the guitar player part, Im a guitar player and i practice all the time and i'd rather be in a band were everyone was a little better than me because i learn more,

But the singer! they're the lazy bastards! i mean what do they have to bring to a gig? A mic that can fit in there pocket. thats just about all.
 
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