Multiband Compression in CEP?

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Hey all, does CEP 2.0 have a multiband compressor?
If so, does this effect alter the volume levels, or the eq?
any feedback or links appreciated. thanks.
 
"Hey all, does CEP 2.0 have a multiband compressor?"

no

"If so, does this effect alter the volume levels"

Compression *always* affects the volume level - that's what compression's designed to do - but mild compression doesn't alter very much.


"...or the eq?"

If it's a particular frequency that's creating the peaks and loud bits in your file, then when you apply compression it'll obviously be reducing the amplitude of that particular frequency, right? Which means it'll be altering the timbre of the instrument, and it'll sound different. Probably not much of a biggie, though.
 
I recall hearing of people splitting a file into frequency bands on multiple tracks, then compressing those individually. The simpler alternative is to use a vst effects (in a wrapper if necessary).
 
The compressor has assignable frequency range.....couldn't this be used multiple times in a chain to multiband compress, or is there something more complicated to the issue that I am missing?
 
Possibly - you'd have to ensure that processing was in parallel not in serial mode in the effects mixer.
 
I use the frequency band splitter at times for multiband compression, as well as multiband "everything else" as needed. Judiciously and conscienciously used in a methodical manner...and sometimes NOT so methodical, :rolleyes: you can really sweeten/clean up stuff to a very high level of quality. It's all how you USE the tools at hand. It is up to your inherent and latent talents to process the music to make it sound.... WOW!
 
Yes - there is the frequency band splitter approach, or stacked 'band-limited' technique using the CEP dynamics processor Jon Rose spoke about and wrote in an Electronic Musician article...I've tried them both out and had a lot of fun:

You can build your own multiband compression in Audition. Use the Frequency Band Splitter in the Multitrack view and apply appropriate compressors on the resultant tracks, or just stack several band-limited compressors in an Effects Rack.
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Here's the full article:
http://emusician.com/editing/emusic_passing_audition/

Me...like Oz said I just use a VST Adapter and use a multiband compressor (like Voxengo Soniformer2) that likes me :D
 
Me...like Oz said I just use a VST Adapter and use a multiband compressor (like Voxengo Soniformer2) that likes me
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Please tell me about this stuff. I remember those threads of yore that you were pursuing in this regard. I wants' to know about VST and Voxeroovengomeisterovichski. I like stuff. I need stuff. I want stuff. Stuff me. Edu-macate me, man! ---Lee
 
SOUND DIAGNOSIS said:
Please tell me about this stuff. I remember those threads of yore that you were pursuing in this regard. I wants' to know about VST and Voxeroovengomeisterovichski. I like stuff. I need stuff. I want stuff. Stuff me. Edu-macate me, man! ---Lee
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Lee - is that you - I didn't recognize you :D

Yes I've been using Voxengo GlissEQ2 and Soniformer2 on many tracks now. GlissEQ2 is a parametric EQ with a cool spectrum analyzer, the plugin lets you export the spectrum in real-time to other instances of GlissEQ2 in case you want to do a little frequency carving with the Kick on track1 and the Bass guitar on track8 - it lets you SEE where the 2 overlap - if you're in to the spectrum kind of thing.

The Soniformer2 plug is a 32band (1/3 octave) multiband that is pretty smooth - all those bands reduces the amount of interaction that a frequency crossing the threshold in one 1/3 octave band can have on another 1/3 octave band.

I deal with poorly recorded home recordings (some of them are mine too!) full of bad overall EQ balance due to cheap hobby equipment, resonances due to poor recording spaces and equipment technique, dynamic problems due to whatever is left, hehe. For that reason I'll have a chain something like this:

Track1 Insert: GlissEQ2->Soniformer2->PSP MixSaturator->GlissEQ2

That lets me repair the resonances with the first GlissEQ2 and Soniformer2 - splitting the job between a parametric EQ and a dynamics processor so I don't have to remove too much of the good EQ but at the same time it doesn;t sound overcompressed from trying to use a compressor to solely fix an EQ balance problem. Next once the track is fixed to my liking I put some tape saturation on it (that thing I always thought I wanted to get rid of so I bought a DAW, hehe), finally broad EQ slopes and slope adjustments to get the instrument to sit in the mix with everyone else (I might switc the saturator and EQ depending).

Voxengo.com
pspaudioware.com

Anyway - that's what I'm up to...I think the real way to go is to get better mics, preamps, recording techniques, recording spaces, and DI happening - then mixdown is simple (to paraphrase George Massenburg)...

How's life in Florida - gettin it back together I hope :cool:
 
kylen said:
Lee - is that you - I didn't recognize you :D

Yes I've been using Voxengo GlissEQ2 and Soniformer2 on many tracks now. GlissEQ2 is a parametric EQ with a cool spectrum analyzer, the plugin lets you export the spectrum in real-time to other instances of GlissEQ2 in case you want to do a little frequency carving with the Kick on track1 and the Bass guitar on track8 - it lets you SEE where the 2 overlap - if you're in to the spectrum kind of thing.

The Soniformer2 plug is a 32band (1/3 octave) multiband that is pretty smooth - all those bands reduces the amount of interaction that a frequency crossing the threshold in one 1/3 octave band can have on another 1/3 octave band.

I deal with poorly recorded home recordings (some of them are mine too!) full of bad overall EQ balance due to cheap hobby equipment, resonances due to poor recording spaces and equipment technique, dynamic problems due to whatever is left, hehe. For that reason I'll have a chain something like this:

Track1 Insert: GlissEQ2->Soniformer2->PSP MixSaturator->GlissEQ2

That lets me repair the resonances with the first GlissEQ2 and Soniformer2 - splitting the job between a parametric EQ and a dynamics processor so I don't have to remove too much of the good EQ but at the same time it doesn;t sound overcompressed from trying to use a compressor to solely fix an EQ balance problem. Next once the track is fixed to my liking I put some tape saturation on it (that thing I always thought I wanted to get rid of so I bought a DAW, hehe), finally broad EQ slopes and slope adjustments to get the instrument to sit in the mix with everyone else (I might switc the saturator and EQ depending).

Voxengo.com
pspaudioware.com

Anyway - that's what I'm up to...I think the real way to go is to get better mics, preamps, recording techniques, recording spaces, and DI happening - then mixdown is simple (to paraphrase George Massenburg)...

How's life in Florida - gettin it back together I hope :cool:
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Hey, thanks for all of that info. Sounds like you enjoy torturing yourself polishing turds, my friend! :p :rolleyes: I am into processing sound like you, but heck, that is mental masturbation at it's finest! I would love to hear some before and after of some of the stuff you have worked on. Florida, at least this part, is recovering. I am looking forward to 6 months of heavenly weather. Enough with this hurricane season. Thanks for asking, and your concern. All the best! ---Leeheehee
 
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