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Try using a smaller amp like a champ or Princeton reverb any small amp even a solid state. Add a boost pedal to get the raunch associated with the classic Marshall sound. You'd be surprised what a small cheap SS amp with a good pedal in front can sound like recorded.
Use the 57 in front and another mic in the room. Even another one behind the amp, if open back you can stick it right behind the speaker but might need to reverse the phase on it. Even though the Marshall is closed back you get a lot of sound from that back board.
You can drive the cab with a smaller head or the speaker in the amp itself.
The trick is the mics and were they are placed. You need more than one so you can blend and not rely on only one mic. That mic in front is really being driven and that can make the recording muddy and mid heavy. Use the second mic to blend in some high end and even out the sound.
That amp is probably too loud for the room and no matter what you do it might not sound right.
Also if you have the master down and the preamp gain up on the Marshall the sound from the speakers are already very compressed and squished. I have been playing blues rock for 35 years and have played a lot!!!! I don't use master volume amps because of that.
I also had my own live sound company and always had problems getting a good sound from master volume amps because of the reasons I stated, if they had an open back I found some times it sound better if I mic'd it from the back with a gate as not to pickup the drums. Or a board to stop some bleed, anything.
You're probably making it worse with the 610. If anything you need a cleaner non colored pre.
Do you have a parametric EQ? Try that.....find the approximate frequencies with a regular EQ then once you have an idea were the problem frequencies are use the para to really zero in on them.
You might also try a compressor before it goes into the interface to limit and slightly compress but probably more of a limiter. You need to get a really controlled sound at that point.
If you have a small board you can try a few mics in the room then into the board, into the Solo 610 into a compressor until you get the best mix from different mics in different parts of the room. Even an EQ before the compressor, like a mini PA system.
Get the fullness from the mic in front, blend in the sound from the other mics until you get the highs and space. You can add reverb later if you want.
The bottom line is to get your sound first then try to record it.
Do not change your sound, it will change the way you play and then you are defeating the whole purpose.
I don't think you can ever get a good guitar sound recorded with one mic. You would be better off using a POD then one mic. Experiment with were the mics are placed, but you need more than one even if it's a cheap one as long as the noise is limited. A cheap condenser mic in the middle of the room might be enough.
Use the 57 in front and another mic in the room. Even another one behind the amp, if open back you can stick it right behind the speaker but might need to reverse the phase on it. Even though the Marshall is closed back you get a lot of sound from that back board.
You can drive the cab with a smaller head or the speaker in the amp itself.
The trick is the mics and were they are placed. You need more than one so you can blend and not rely on only one mic. That mic in front is really being driven and that can make the recording muddy and mid heavy. Use the second mic to blend in some high end and even out the sound.
That amp is probably too loud for the room and no matter what you do it might not sound right.
Also if you have the master down and the preamp gain up on the Marshall the sound from the speakers are already very compressed and squished. I have been playing blues rock for 35 years and have played a lot!!!! I don't use master volume amps because of that.
I also had my own live sound company and always had problems getting a good sound from master volume amps because of the reasons I stated, if they had an open back I found some times it sound better if I mic'd it from the back with a gate as not to pickup the drums. Or a board to stop some bleed, anything.
You're probably making it worse with the 610. If anything you need a cleaner non colored pre.
Do you have a parametric EQ? Try that.....find the approximate frequencies with a regular EQ then once you have an idea were the problem frequencies are use the para to really zero in on them.
You might also try a compressor before it goes into the interface to limit and slightly compress but probably more of a limiter. You need to get a really controlled sound at that point.
If you have a small board you can try a few mics in the room then into the board, into the Solo 610 into a compressor until you get the best mix from different mics in different parts of the room. Even an EQ before the compressor, like a mini PA system.
Get the fullness from the mic in front, blend in the sound from the other mics until you get the highs and space. You can add reverb later if you want.
The bottom line is to get your sound first then try to record it.
Do not change your sound, it will change the way you play and then you are defeating the whole purpose.
I don't think you can ever get a good guitar sound recorded with one mic. You would be better off using a POD then one mic. Experiment with were the mics are placed, but you need more than one even if it's a cheap one as long as the noise is limited. A cheap condenser mic in the middle of the room might be enough.
