Mr. Maher improves PI Original: Should I

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I'd just thought I'd share the new iteration of this tune. Jeff gave me a nice guitar track, and I'd appreciate thoughts on the mix.

Thanks!

Should I with Jeff on lead
 
its a different beast now huh?

i think it sounds a lot more traditional rock than the first version, but more finished for it...solid playing from jeff, again..


there's a bit, I think the second verse when its a little sparse, dunno if you'd do/add anything else there but the part directly proceeding it rocks!


not nits on the mix...sounded great on my phones :)
 
a harmonica...i was trying to think what i could hear and it was a harmonica...maybe Im getting into the blues lol


good job you two :)
 
Kudos to both of you! That sounds damn good! The performance and the recording are top notch--but the song is really well constructed too! Great stuff all around.
 
Sounds great, Jason. Jeff does a great job.
It's such a great rocking tune, but I'm missing a hookline, i.e. "THE" chorus, the one where the sun comes out and warms your heart....you know what I mean.;) Lovely recording though.:)
 
Good tune PI! I like the vibe...my kinda tune. Oooh, love that Midnight Oil vocal vibe there in the middle, nice. Cool gtr tone. My only nit is that the rhythm guitar is kicking the shit outta the lead :eek: I come from the metal school, where the lead comes in and melts the faces off, so maybe I'm a little unbalanced....come to think of it my wife says I'm unbalanced all the time....:drunk:

urok :)
 
kcearl said:
its a different beast now huh?

i think it sounds a lot more traditional rock than the first version, but more finished for it...solid playing from jeff, again..


there's a bit, I think the second verse when its a little sparse, dunno if you'd do/add anything else there but the part directly proceeding it rocks!


not nits on the mix...sounded great on my phones :)
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Thanks, Keith. I also thought his guitar part completely changed the song. When I initially received it, I didn't really like the change. It was only after I started mixing it in that the part really came alive. I *love* how it sounds at the end now... His chugging took it all to the next level.

WhiteStrat said:
Kudos to both of you! That sounds damn good! The performance and the recording are top notch--but the song is really well constructed too! Great stuff all around.
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Thanks, WhiteStrat! Glad ya like it. ...and to think - this song came to be as nothing more than an attempt to practice guitar more. (I still think the song itself could be added to greatly, but as it is, I really like it too)

joeym said:
Sounds great, Jason. Jeff does a great job.
It's such a great rocking tune, but I'm missing a hookline, i.e. "THE" chorus, the one where the sun comes out and warms your heart....you know what I mean.;) Lovely recording though.:)
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Yup. Totally understand what you're talking about. Most of the stuff I write now-a-days is just so I can practice guitar more. Most of the songs I've written lately are completely devoid of any complexity, and are all less than 3 minutes long. Thanks for listening and commenting!

maximusbs said:
Good tune PI! I like the vibe...my kinda tune. Oooh, love that Midnight Oil vocal vibe there in the middle, nice. Cool gtr tone. My only nit is that the rhythm guitar is kicking the shit outta the lead :eek: I come from the metal school, where the lead comes in and melts the faces off, so maybe I'm a little unbalanced....come to think of it my wife says I'm unbalanced all the time....:drunk:

urok :)
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Thanks for listening, Max. Yeah... I fought with the volume a lot. The level I arrived at, I think gets the point across without overpowering the rest. Hmm... upon another listen... maybe it could come up just a notch or two..
 
It's good, but it's too much. Too much lead. It seems that every space that's not occupied by vocals has guitar wanking all over it. No offense to anyone involved, but most of the time, less is more.
 
Greg_L said:
It's good, but it's too much. Too much lead. It seems that every space that's not occupied by vocals has guitar wanking all over it. No offense to anyone involved, but most of the time, less is more.
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Thanks for you input, Greg. Gotta find the balance, for sure. I'm gonna sit on this one for awhile and listen to it in a day or two - see if I still like it.

For now, I really like it.
 
maximusbs said:
Good tune PI! I like the vibe...my kinda tune. Oooh, love that Midnight Oil vocal vibe there in the middle, nice. Cool gtr tone. My only nit is that the rhythm guitar is kicking the shit outta the lead :eek: I come from the metal school, where the lead comes in and melts the faces off, so maybe I'm a little unbalanced....come to think of it my wife says I'm unbalanced all the time....:drunk:

urok :)
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Greg_L said:
It's good, but it's too much. Too much lead. It seems that every space that's not occupied by vocals has guitar wanking all over it. No offense to anyone involved, but most of the time, less is more.
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After sitting on this a couple of days, I think you're both right. The lead needs to come up, but it also needs to not be throughout the whole song. I'm gonna find the best parts, and highlight them much more - while cutting the rest out.

We'll make a good mix of this yet! Thanks for your input, guys.
 
Hi Jason,

It sounds really good to my ears. The mix is great. I like the guitar work a lot. I do agree with Greg though, that in spots it's maybe too much (that hurts me to say that...ha ha). For me that's most apparent in the 2nd verse when the guitar is under the vocals, but competing for attention there. I think it's cool to build up and add parts as a song progresses, but that 2nd verse guitar part is a little too busy for my taste. Other than that it sounds great. I love the ending too, that's a cool little guitar fadeout.

Best Regards,

Dave DeWhitt
 
It definitely adds more, but I might have to agree with some of the others that it is too much. I will have to say that it is some great playing added to the song though. If it were going to be left I would say bring it up just a bit. But I am a guitarist, so whatever. ;)

Still badass to me.

Trump
 
dewhitt said:
Hi Jason,

It sounds really good to my ears. The mix is great. I like the guitar work a lot. I do agree with Greg though, that in spots it's maybe too much (that hurts me to say that...ha ha). For me that's most apparent in the 2nd verse when the guitar is under the vocals, but competing for attention there. I think it's cool to build up and add parts as a song progresses, but that 2nd verse guitar part is a little too busy for my taste. Other than that it sounds great. I love the ending too, that's a cool little guitar fadeout.

Best Regards,

Dave DeWhitt
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Thanks, Dave. Updated mix coming below...

trumpino1 said:
It definitely adds more, but I might have to agree with some of the others that it is too much. I will have to say that it is some great playing added to the song though. If it were going to be left I would say bring it up just a bit. But I am a guitarist, so whatever. ;)

Still badass to me.

Trump
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Thanks for listening and commenting, Trump!

Okay... I messed around with this tonight, after listening to it for the past week or so. I think I'm done with this.

Thank you, Jeff, for your guitar work. It really did change the song. Thanks to everyone else for commenting, and helping me get this song to where it is.

Here's the final mix.
 
Final mix quite different than the original, I do like the arrangement with strategic lead placement. That's what I'm going to try and do with Movin On when I get some time. Good final - nice !
 
Well, spank me !!!!! :spank: :D That's much better! That rhythm tone is quite good, it's not very distorted, but it hits so damn hard! This is my favorite tune from you PI! It rocks, well and good, but sill has the PI 'weirdness' (no offense :)), which keeps it original. Jeff's playing is free to breathe now and be felt. Nice playing Jeff!
Great improvement PI!! U rok! :D:cool:


-itty-bitty-nitty-gritty......double check your timing (I hate to say that :o) on the 2nd or 3rd hit from the end of the drums (I hate a player that doesn't give the song time)...it sounds like maybe an off kick....not sure, I have the rhythm sense of a white accountant, so .....:D
 
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maximusbs said:
Well, spank me !!!!! :spank: :D That's much better! That rhythm tone is quite good, it's not very distorted, but it hits so damn hard! This is my favorite tune from you PI! It rocks, well and good, but sill has the PI 'weirdness' (no offense :)), which keeps it original. Jeff's playing is free to breathe now and be felt. Nice playing Jeff!
Great improvement PI!! U rok! :D:cool:


-itty-bitty-nitty-gritty......double check your timing (I hate to say that :o) on the 2nd or 3rd hit from the end of the drums (I hate a player that doesn't give the song time)...it sounds like maybe an off kick....not sure, I have the rhythm sense of a white accountant, so .....:D
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Thanks Brad. Thanks loads... No offense taken. I'm a weird mix of a human for sure, and have always walked to my own beat. Glad you can appreciate the tune though!

As far as the bass hit at the end goes, I heard it, I agree, and after listening to it 4 or 5 times, I've decided I can live with it. (good ear, man)
 
definitely a better mix....it just needed more build up and you did that, nice one J :)
 
Yeah I will definitely have to say that this sounds freaking awesome now. I haven't gone back to see exactly what is different and what you kept and left out but I really like the sound of this here.

I think this is a great tune and you got some great talent there PI.

Also Jeff did a hell of a job too!

Have a good one.

Trump
 
You'll probably hit me for saying this but...
a) Too much reverb on the voice & the voice moves back n forward a little which is disconcerting;
b) too tasteful on the lead lines;
c) too much lead - as in too loud &
d) the bass doesn't really seem to have a space of its own in the rockier section(perhaps follows the riff too closely or needs some carving)
The song & riff are good and your tub thumping is really good.
 
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