MR-8 stereo wav track time question?

[ivan1]

I'm full of questions tonight.

If I record an acoustic guitar song of 5 minutes on two channels using 2 microphones, I have used 10 track min. If I then bounce these tracks to 7/8, I them have used 20 min of track time. If I then convert to a stereo wav file, do I now require 30 min of track time( which will not fit on my 128 mb card ) or does the stereo wav file overwrite the tracks on 7/8.

 

[clifchamb]

I'm full of questions tonight.

If I record an acoustic guitar song of 5 minutes on two channels using 2 microphones, I have used 10 track min. If I then bounce these tracks to 7/8, I them have used 20 min of track time. If I then convert to a stereo wav file, do I now require 30 min of track time( which will not fit on my 128 mb card ) or does the stereo wav file overwrite the tracks on 7/8.

WIth the 128 card, you will be lucky to even be able to bouce tracks 1 and 2 to 7 and 8. Creating a wave file from 7 and 8 WILL take up a lot more memory so it is best to delete tracks 1 and 2 first. The wave file to my knowledge does NOT replace tracks 7 and 8. Hope this helps


clif

 

[turntablist]

If it were me, I would record in mono to track 1, bounce tracks 1-6 down to track 7/8 with the efffects/mastering you want (making it a stereo track). If you like the playback of 7/8 (JUST 7/8 remember to turn down tracks 1-6 when listening to the mixdown product) then erase track 1, delete all unused portions of the song, then convert 7/8 to the wav file. You should have enough room.

 

[ivan1]

At the moment I have been recording to a mono track, and I have more than enough room to bounce to 7/8 and then to stereo wav. Sounds very good too. I have been thinking about recording to two channels with two mics, as many internet sites suggest this for acoustic guitar. I wonder how much of a difference it will make to the sound, by recording to two tracks. Does anybody have a feel for this. I t would be nice to have some idea before buying another mic and pre-amp.

 

[redStar8]

Ivan,
Have you tried using a mixer b4 the pre-amp ?
redStar8

 

[junplugged]

I know, I had this problem. I figured I'm only doing one take, no dubs, stereo. So i didn't think about length that much. so my tune was over 6 mins. In stereo, so that's tk1&2. mastered to 7&8. Then the wave file convert ran out of room! So I deleted 1&2 and of course, did the 'delete unused' function. Then I still couldn't (copy and) convert 7&8 to wave file. so i did a little math. 128 mb wave file max size is 1/2 of 128. Since you need 7&8 to make wave file. It isn't overwritten. if you have originally recorded in stereo or not, you need 2 tracks on 7&8 to make a wave file that you can copy to pc and mp3 it or whatever. So that's 1/2 of 7&8 of the 1/2 of 128mb. so that's 32 mb max for a length of a single track in time. the max single track time is 24 min., so 1/4 of 24 is 6 minutes. One of my tracks 1&2 stereo recording was 38 mb so 38x4 is 152 so it couldn't fit onto 128 mb card.

The longest track time you have is 128 / 4 = 32 mb. which is guess is the same as the total track time 24min / 4 = 6 min max.

this assumes 1 thru 6 are deleted so you can have room to convert 7&8 to wave file. If you actually used 6 mins on 4 tracks, you're also done. Or stopped since you now have no more room even to bounce.

So I'm looking for a bigger card. 256 / 4 is 64 and 50 min track time / 4 is 12.5 that's a good amt of min.s. Then you could have 6 mins x 4 tracks = 24 mins, then have room to sub mix to 5&6 and that's 6 tracks at 6 mins = 36 mins. then erase 1 to 4 and use for 4 more tracks = 36 mins again, then have space to mix to 7&8 = 8 tracks x 6 mins = 48 mins. then erase all of 1 to 6 to make room for your wave file from 7&8.

Of course if you do this, you have to back up to pc before each erasure, because you want to be able to go back and re-mix if you have to. and yo ucan't if you've erased. so you need to be able to restore. so your backup isn't exactly a backup, it's an archive. And you really want 2 copies of an archive for safety. I'd burn to cd or copy to second pc's hard drive before erasing anything from the MR-8.