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I'm having a hard time deciding if I should get the Event 20/20bas monitors or something else...I would like to spend less money if I could get the quality i wanted. All I need is nearfeild for a home studio. I want active over passive, built in amps etc...

I was thinking about the tannoys, but the jump in price from tannoys to events is so small, I've heard the events are much better.

I'm concerned about what Sjoko2 said about the heating up of the events, this seems like a serious problem I wouldn't want...no one seems to have this concern or notice this problem but sjoko2.

I wanted to get the events used, but i can't find them anywhere, I guess nobody wants to sell them... Do you all think it's smart to get used monitors since out of all equipment they can be the most easily blown or damaged I'd think....?

I've heard the yamaha's are pretty good, but a long shot from something like the events... also about "direct feild" what is it exactly, the event20/20bas are nearfelid, right, they say direct felid...?

sorry for all the questions...?
If anybody has any event 20/20bas monitors for sale... let me know.
 
monitors seem so expensive for basicaly being speakers, does the price mainly go so high because they can reach high volumes, because I don't need them that loud...
 
Yes, you've stumbled onto the secret monitor formula:

Loudness = $$$

Actually, (and don't tell anybody I told you this) the best place to monitor would be a loud club. Just have them pipe through your tracks and tell them to crank it. Then you'll hear exactly what's going on. ;)
 
Just pick up a pair or Yorkville YSM-1s or even the Tannoy Proto-Js and you'll be fine.

I was in Montreal this weekend, and I had a chance to audition a variety of monitors (not in the studio environment, mind you, but anyways...)
I heard KRK V8s, Mackie 824s, Behringer Truths, Yamaha MSP10s, Yorkville YSM-1s, Tannoy Proto-Js.

In my opinion, the KRK V8s were very very good - had everything I liked to hear out of monitors, without losing the sonic balance and boosting any particular frequency range unnecessarily... the Mackie 824s were solid, not quite as focused or balanced as the V8s . The Yamaha MSP10s were good, but I found they had that familiar honk I hated from the NS10s (although not nearly as bad as NaSty-10s!) They had a pair of Behringer Truths up there - definitely trying to emulate the Mackie's, and at a first glance, they actually did allright, but they are not as well-balanced or well-defined as the Mackies. The Mackie's sounded solid and clear, the Behringer's were more "flabby".

Then down to the lower price points - Tannoy Proto-Js and the Yorkville YSM-1s.... roughly the same price (CDN), with the Tannoys about $50 cheaper. Both sounded much bigger than their modest appearance. And their sound is very similar - but - in my opinion, the Tannoys bottom end was slightly better defined than the Yorkvilles. Both were well-balanced, very smooth and articulate, and both will do an excellent job on a budget. (I ended up buying the Proto-Js as a third reference, mainly because the Yorkvilles sounded like my secondary reference - the PSBs - so they wouldn't have been much help to me as a third reference)

Overall - if you can afford to throw almost $2K cdn on them, the KRK V8s were the clear winner of all the ones I heard - the Mackies would have come 2nd for me.

Bruce


BTW - Priz, volume-handling has NOTHING to do with the price point of monitors.
 
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so you all don't think I'm playing myself if i get monitors for over a grand canadian...The Event 20/20bas are about 1450$ can with tax... Is this a rip off, Is it worth getting these monitors, that's alotta money, but I am dedicated to this and beleive I will be doing it for many years to come...should I put out the extra whatever and get the mackies?
...I'm sorry 2 grand is way outta budget. I'm worried about the events heating up problem, is this worth worrying about???
Also why do they say the events are direct feild monitors, what's that supposed to mean...I only need nearfelid.
 
Those proto-j's don't include an amp do they? I'm looking for actice, or is it powered when an amp is included...?
What speakers in this case, with built in amps do you think I should get...?
 
The KRK V8s are active (meaning powered) - and if you can afford the price, they will do you very well... slightly less in price, the Mackies are also good, although I'd say their transient response is slightly slower than the KRKs.

The Proto-Js are not powered (or active)...

Bruce
 
I know he's not gonna listen but I'm gonna say it anyway...

priz,

I think you're gonna get screwed by your own gear/talent ratio. Unless I'm misreading your experience level, I think you'll be fine with the aforementioned Yorkvilles or Tannoys and a decent amp. Unless the exchange rate is a lot worse than I think, please do not go and spend $1450 Canadian on monitors at this point. You'll thank me later.

;)
 
okay then...

I've heard the tannoys sound a bit better than the yorkvilles...yes/no?

uhhm...getting monitors without out an amp is much cheaper, but arn't amps gonna bring the price up close to active/powered monitors anyway.

by the way, The 1400 price for the event's 20/20bas is apparently from the stores words, 700 US, like I've seen the event bas for...Also with tax, without the original price is 1200 dollars. I think It might be a tiny bit less to order from the US, but I'm almost positive It might end up more...

I've heard monitors are very important, I'm doing hiphop, so bass is apparently needed, and I've heard setting the amp right on the monitors all the time, takes extra effort and work... In general from what I've gained on this site, monitors with built in amps are much better...

I just want to get the best deal for what I get...weather it's alot or not, i want the product I'm getting to be worth the money.
Also good monitors will save time testing so much to get a "perfect mix", so overall will save me time in the future, and time = money, so mayby in the long run....

Thanks for the responses... dolemite I'm lisening. I"m past the stage I was at before, I hope... I really REALLY just want to get started. thanks again...still waiting to get the delta. :(
 
Re: okay then...

PRiZ said:
I've heard the tannoys sound a bit better than the yorkvilles...yes/no?
The Proto-Js and the YSM-1s are VERY similar - the Tannoys being slightly "edgier" than the smoother-sounding Yorkvilles. Both are very usable. They would be a decent start for you, and when you get more experience, you'll be in a position to make a better decision on monitors you like (and by then, you'll probably have saved more funds). You upgrade your monitors then and relegate your current ones to 2nd references.

Bruce
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
Priz,

I agree with Dolemite....

Bruce

OMG, I'm going to get this post framed or made into a plaque or something! :)
 
Just bought new monitors

I just traded in my Event 20/20bas for Mackie HR824's.....I'm still happy.

My issues with the event 20/20's were mostly cosmetic and utility...I didn't like adjusting hi/lo frequencies with a friggen mini screwdrive on a plastic screw that stripped out. I was also unimpressed with cone rattle and bass on my Events. (maybe I blew them out...I don't know - I made the mistake of loaning them out)

Mackie used nice switches, explainations, and detailed info on the frequencies so that even a relative newbie like myself can get a slightly better mix...very cool...very crisp and clear...listening to Radiohead albums like Kid A and Amenisic can be a bit of a headtrip...lots of usage of reverb and effects to make instruments appear way back...them BLAMMM - drum beat that feels like it's in the room with you...bone dry and direct.

downside, of course, is about $400 more for the monitors...(right now anyway at Mars, they're only $600 apiece, whereas Events are about $780 or so for two)
 
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