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I've been doing a lot of research on monitors for the last couple of months. Of all of the different pairs in my price range these ones seem to be the best. However this is just on paper I cannot find any reason why one monitor is better than the rest outside of that. What makes the V6s so special. The Mk2 has just as good frequency response as the TR8 why are they so much cheaper? Is there really going to be a huge difference between a 6" woofer and a 8" even tho they hit the smae frequencies? I don't want to buy a sub because I already tend to over compensate and I want a monitor that is honest but even after testing the few I have had the chance to I really can't decide what one is best.


Alesis M1 Active Mk2
http://americanmusical.com/item--i-ALE-M1AMK2.html

Event TR8
http://americanmusical.com/item--i-EVE-TR8.html

Yamaha HS50/80
http://americanmusical.com/item--i-YAM-HS80M.html

M- Audio BX8
http://americanmusical.com/item--i-MII-BX8A-PAK.html

KRK V-Series 4/6/8
http://www.krksys.com/v3/vseries2_v8.asp

KRK Rokit 5/6/8
http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-KRK-RP8.html
 
I love my Alesis M1mk2 Actives. I have had them for 3 years. I also tried the BX8's - they seemed ok, but the enclosures were extremely bulky.
 
i am wondering the same thing, and thinking aobut gettin some good monitors that wont break the bank, but what makes any of them better then the stereo speakers i have now?
 
illies17 said:
i am wondering the same thing, and thinking aobut gettin some good monitors that wont break the bank, but what makes any of them better then the stereo speakers i have now?

http://www.tweakheadz.com/studio_monitors.htm

Unlike a hi-fi speaker, which is designed, hopefully, to make all audio material sound pleasing to the ear, the studio monitor has as it's main objective to paint an accurate audio image of the material, with no unnatural emphasis or de-emphasis of particular frequencies. This is what it means when a monitor is said to be "flat". and "uncolored" or "transparent".
 
X man Da Legend said:
I've been doing a lot of research on monitors for the last couple of months. Of all of the different pairs in my price range these ones seem to be the best. However this is just on paper I cannot find any reason why one monitor is better than the rest outside of that.

I'll speak to what I know (or think I do) here. Reading on paper can only get you so far - you really have to listen to monitors to see what you prefer. There's another thread going on right now which references the Event SP8s and the Dynaudio BM5As. Those are two of my favorite picks, but they're completely different. The BM5As are really smooth, and good for quiet monitoring that you could listen to all day. The SP8s kick like crazy, and have a pretty bright high end - they'll get your blood flowing. I love both of them, but they're very different.

X man Da Legend said:
What makes the V6s so special.

Nothing, unless you like them more.

X man Da Legend said:
The Mk2 has just as good frequency response as the TR8 why are they so much cheaper?

Because Alesis doesn't have as good of a name in the studio monitor world as Event does. And personally, because I thought the Mk2's had a ridiculously hyped bass response.

X man Da Legend said:
Is there really going to be a huge difference between a 6" woofer and a 8" even tho they hit the smae frequencies?

Huge? Probably not. Big? Yeah, I'd say so. Your 6" woofer will only hit those 40Hz frequencies so hard... the 8" will hit a lot harder. The 6" will be better in the midrange frequencies, though, on average (certain models do better than others).

X man Da Legend said:
I don't want to buy a sub because I already tend to over compensate and I want a monitor that is honest but even after testing the few I have had the chance to I really can't decide what one is best.

I decided not to get a sub because the rooms I'm currently working in aren't treated very well, and a sub has more likelihood of exciting room modes and standing waves than nearfield monitors do. Usually, you can turn the sub up or down relative to the main speakers... but I personally felt that nearfields were more accurate and reliable when I listened to them.

X man Da Legend said:

I'll tell you what I listened to, and what I bought. Like I mentioned, I thought the Alesis M1's have way too much bass in them, and it wasn't a real linear bass, either. I checked out the TR8s, too, but wasn't particularly impressed (don't remember exactly why). Also tried the BX8's, which sounded horrible to my ears in the high frequencies. KRKs are really nice - I listened to the V-series, and also to the Rokit series - I ended up with the Rokit 8's for three reasons: they sounded very similar to the Dynaudio BM5a's (which are very well reputed, sounded amazingly smooth, and were MUCH more expensive), they had lots of kick to them when you cranked them up, and they weren't too expensive. I thought for the money that I got the best deal I could. However, now that I have them, I realize they're a little dark on the top end, and wish they had some more highs in them. But mostly, I just need to get used to that.

There is one factual matter to get out of the way: if you want monitors that you can crank up a good bit and get kicked in the chest, you'll probably want something with 8" drivers (although there are exceptions). This is also true if you're going to be mixing stuff that has lots of really low frequencies - the others may say they can hit them, but they won't be able to get as loud as the 8" ones, probably. If, however, you don't care how loud they get, prefer quieter music, and don't do lots of work with really low freqs, stay with smaller speakers - they'll probably be more accurate on average.

Alright, from here on, listen to them! If you think they sound bad, then that's all you need to eliminate them. You're looking for a speaker that has a flat frequency response that you're happy to listen to all day, so just pick what you think sounds good! When you listen, take in a well-mixed/well-produced CD that you know REALLY well and is similar to what you might be mixing, and listen to the same songs on every set of monitors that you're interested in. This will help you evaluate them more evenly. Listen to see if you hear any major frequency bumps or dips, listen to see if they're harsh to your ears, listen to see how muddy or clean the bass is... those sorts of things.

I'm out of words of wisdom for right now. Anyone else what to chime in? :)
 
thanks for the help guys. I wish more people would have had more information on the HS80s I may have to go to guitar center with a few reference cds. Any good suggestions for hip hop & r&b reference cds? I usually use Dr. Dre Chronic 2001, Young Jeezy Thug Motivation 101, Rhianna Girl Like Me, Juelz Santana From Me To You and Little Brother Chitlin Circuit.
 
brzilian said:
I love my Alesis M1mk2 Actives. I have had them for 3 years. I also tried the BX8's - they seemed ok, but the enclosures were extremely bulky.

I've got these too, I love them and I've only had them for a short while.
 
I personally like the BX8's, My ears are use to them. We have them in all the studios.
 
the KRK Rokits have a nice low end. Either that or the OG panasonics!
 
danico4not said:
the KRK Rokits have a nice low end. Either that or the OG panasonics!


It's a bit uneven for mixing though. Better for listening for pleasure than for mixing.
 
thanks for the feedback folks. I made a trip to guitar center today and tested the Yamaha hs50s, the Rokit5/8s, the BX5/8s, and the dynaudio bm5as. They wouldnt put out a display for the hs80s tho oddly enough. Of all of the monitors I heard I really liked the Yamahas and the Dynaudios. The bx5s were ok but had no midrange. The bx8s were too bass heavy and the rokits were too bass heavy as well. What are your guy's thoughts on the Dynaudios and the Yamahas
 
as it stands right now I think I will get the yamahas but I dont know for sure yet
 
I use Event TR-6's at home,,, at school I use either the Event TR-8's, Mackie 824's, Tannoy Reveals, or Genelecs. Out of the monitors at school I get better translation with the Mackies.

I have my eye on the Blue Sky Monitors for at home now. They have been getting great reviews over at GS.

Good Luck in whichever you choose... You're still gonna have to listen to find the strenghts and weaknesses of any one you buy.

Will
 
had a good listen to the Yam HS80s this weekend. sounded very good to my ears - very flat indeed. fairly decent EQ control on the back as well. the TR8s, which i kinda A/B'd with the Yams were quite bass heavy i thought, a bit of a flabby bottom end.

THe Yams however are much bigger than the TR8s in physical size, so i guess it's also up to your space. Listen to the HS50s, and I wasn't impressed really. can't quite remember why, but the HS80s were really a nice surprise - they didn't sound like the NS10s which i personally detest.
 
I am starting to sound like a sales guy here but when you get a good product that your happy with I guess there is no harm in telling others - If you are in the market for Monitors and the budget is in the 1K range - You should really give a serious listen and consideration to the JBL LSR 4300 series of monitors - the RMC function works well (even though it is definitely not a substitue for a well treated room) on low Freq problems.

These monitors really shine and are very detailed - You can listen to them all day - reverbs, eq adjustments, Acoustic guitars (I think Acoustic Guitars are very telling when it comes to monitors) all sound clear and precise - You can work with these things.

just my .02 - I wanted and was prepared to get the Dyns and walked out with these - No buyer's remorse as all :)
 
MessianicDreams said:
had a good listen to the Yam HS80s this weekend. sounded very good to my ears - very flat indeed. fairly decent EQ control on the back as well. the TR8s, which i kinda A/B'd with the Yams were quite bass heavy i thought, a bit of a flabby bottom end.

THe Yams however are much bigger than the TR8s in physical size, so i guess it's also up to your space. Listen to the HS50s, and I wasn't impressed really. can't quite remember why, but the HS80s were really a nice surprise - they didn't sound like the NS10s which i personally detest.
thats what everyone who has listenend to both sets of Yamahas have said. I however am very impressed with the 5s I want to give the 8s a listen
 
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