monitor amps?

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ok this is propably a dumb q but im planing to get some monitors and they need a amp to be powered but i have a mackie dfx 6 mixer so can i use that instead?

or shouldi get something else my budget 200 usd :D i was thinking about getting some Behringer TRUTH B2031P Passive Monitors they are 159 pair... or is it bettered to get some powered monitors instead?
its mostly for rap production so dont need anything real fancy
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Monitors are one of, if not THE, most important purchases you make.

Without good monitoring you can have a billion dollars worth of gear and you still won't be able to make a good sounding recording.

My advice -- take it slowly and save a little bit of money in the meantime. Listen to the speakers you are thinking about buying and if they don't sound good to you move on to something else.

There are many good reasons to go with powered speakers - the power amp matches the speaker, no third piece to carry with you when location recording, etc - and not many to go with passive speakers until you get up into the audiophile range at $10,000 apiece or above.
 
ssscientist said:
Monitors are one of, if not THE, most important purchases you make.

Without good monitoring you can have a billion dollars worth of gear and you still won't be able to make a good sounding recording.

My advice -- take it slowly and save a little bit of money in the meantime. Listen to the speakers you are thinking about buying and if they don't sound good to you move on to something else.

There are many good reasons to go with powered speakers - the power amp matches the speaker, no third piece to carry with you when location recording, etc - and not many to go with passive speakers until you get up into the audiophile range at $10,000 apiece or above.
I disagree.
If the guy is REALLY tight on a budget, he's better off buying passive monitors and a nice used consumer 2.1 power amp than powered monitors.
The amps in MOST (if not ALL) active monitors suck (I discussed it in another post), so the logical choice is to go with the best passives you can afford and then upgrade the amp later on.
 
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TheDewd said:
I disagree.
If the guy is REALLY tight on a budget, he's better off buying passive monitors and a nice used consumer 2.1 power amp than powered monitors.
The amps in MOST (if not ALL) active monitors suck (I discussed it in another post), so the logical choice is to go with the best passives you can afford and then upgrade the amp later on.
You're recomending by ASIAN or FOREIGN MADE passives???? WTF, I just read your MADE IN USA spooge on that other thread. Most if not all active amp circuits do not suck. Most if not all consumer stereo power amps (of which most if not all are RX) are imported. Whatever!!!!

Listen. No just listen. Bring your own source be it iPod, CD, multitrack, or laptop and listen. There's lots out there so be prepared. I own passive DesignAccoustics powered by Russound, KRK actives, and have owned NS10's powered by Crown. They were all great setups. They were all slightly different. I've listened to a number of actives recently because I'm setting up a new studio. They are a great way to go for anyone starting out or seasoned studio folk. Some quality active makers spent alot of time matching their amp circuits to their speaker construction.

Go ahead and listen to what's in your budget and pick the best you can. You'll upgrade eventually but at least you're on the road. BTW, I drive and worship my toyotas, talk on a samsung cell, type on a MAC loaded with imported chips, and goto the dump once a week in an 89 Ford F250 loaded with Japanese parts (factory installed).

BTW: I tried the Behri's and they sucked. Hot at 60, dead at 500 to 1K, and just plain screaming at around 4K on a flat EQ through 3 different amps. Give me a break. Look at m-Audio or some KRK's. Funny and ironic due to Behri's motto but "Just Listen".
 
ridgeback said:
You're recomending by ASIAN or FOREIGN MADE passives???? WTF, I just read your MADE IN USA spooge on that other thread. Most if not all active amp circuits do not suck. Most if not all consumer stereo power amps (of which most if not all are RX) are imported. Whatever!!!!
First, I never suggested import speakers, but if that's what the guy wants, it's HIS choice.
Second, the only active monitors that has competitive amps built inside are the Barefoot speakers which comes with Bryston amplification.
A good passive monitor set with a good power amp is a lot more logical solution for all those reasons I mentionned in an earlier post.
 
ridgeback said:
Please, I just read your drool RE: Made In America in another thread and you're recomending stereo consumer grade amps? WTF? Most if not all consumer grade stereo amps are imports (not too mention most if not all are RX).
Yes, as a good temporary solution, the guy could buy good USA passive speakers and an IMPORT amp then switch to a Bryston later on.
Asian amps can be had cheap, so he doesn't loose that much money going that route, which enables him to save up more for the good USA made amps.

You have to use CRAP for what it's worth.
 
TheDewd said:
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You have to use CRAP for what it's worth.

Cool whatever, I'm too tired to fight about it so we'll just have to disagree with no hope of universal harmony. I can't reply on those amps as I've not heard them. Now, I'll have to find one and listen.
 
ridgeback said:
Cool whatever, I'm too tired to fight about it so we'll just have to disagree with no hope of universal harmony. I can't reply on those amps as I've not heard them. Now, I'll have to find one and listen.
I strongly encourage you to listen to some Bryston and Classé amps.
Those are great Canadian made amps
 
Hey a good update !
ssscientist gave me bad rep and left me this message:

"Most (if not ALL) active monitors include Genelec, Adam, Mackie and many many others. Think before you post. ssscientist"

I think before I post dude!
Now my point is that if those companies (which are SPEAKER companies) could make passive monitors and let me hook the quality amp I want to them, it would be much better than using the amps those SPEAKER companies build. Now you'll come and tell me that Mackie is not a speaker company? That's a good reason not to expect much from the speakers AND amps from this company, as they are generalists....jack of all trades master of none dude!

Bottom line is that the best setup consists of great speakers made by a SPEAKER manufacturer (specialist) and a great power amp made by an AMP specialist.

Indeed, Barefoot sound understood that! He took care of the speaker design and incorporated Bryston amps in his design. Simply BRILLANT IMHO. If all manufacturers were that clever, I wouldn't be wasting my time talking poo on the amps they use in their designs. They have to concentrate on speaker design instead of pretending they're amp designers.
 
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