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Hi, i need some mixing advice about this song:


Could you give me any tips/advice/comments about the mixing in this song?


Thx in advance...
 
Ok, I'll start at the beginning :)
Acoustical guitar intro is leaning to the right.
Main vocals are totally inaudible. Is he eating the mic? If so, use a large diaphragm condensor mic, so he can't stick it in his mouth.

The drummer needs better timing. If he wants to do really freaky fast stuff, that's fine, but make him do it tighter ;)

Snare and kick sound very dry. Cymbals and hats sound ok, but not amazing either.

Your electrical guitar sound don't make me jump either, sorry dude ;) Try not aiming the mix directly at the speaker, but a little bit off-center aiming at the ring around the middle of the cone.
 
k thx for your comment,

It's my first mix ever so it can't be perfect ;).
I havent used condensator mic's (because i didnt have those at the time) so cymbals and snare sound lack of high cristal clear frequenties.
Could a little echo/reverb help? and wich program should i use to add echo?

The guitar mic tip is an excellent tip because i never had an idea how to point it , and 1 inch to the left and the right makes a whole different sound.
Could any EQ'ing solve the problem?

About main vocals i don't exactly know what you mean, i used an shure sm 58 mic pointing downwards so no ''P's'' are too loud and a condensator mic at a distance...
Should i add more condensator in the mix? or the voice in gener a bit louder.

Bass is still to be recorded properly (i played it in 1 take because bass player is on vacation)

Settings:
Drum:
Kick Drum: DAP Pl-02 (Shure BETA 52 Copy)
-Miced inside the drum close to the beater and pointing at it.
-No compression used
-Eq: 10k+4dB

Floor Tom: Samson
Under The Tom pointing at the center. 3cm away from it
-panned right 50

Tom 2: JTS CX-505(condensator)
Clip-on: Very close to avoid any leakage
-panned 0

Tom 1: Idem Tom 2
-panned right 25

Snare: 2*SM57
Pointing at the center 3 cm from contact.
Under the snare (left out in the mix , bad sounding)
-3:1 compression
-panned 25 left

Hi-Hat: enough bleed from the snare so no mic

Overheads: 2*SM57 Very far left and right
panned 100 left and 100 right


Guitar1: Recorded with 1 sm57
Recorded 2 times: 1 left 1 right (panned 100 procent)
Solo guitar: Recorded 6 times: 3 left 3 right (1-2 panned100; 3-4 panned75; 5-6 panned 50)
Guitar2: recorded 2 times : 1 left 1 right (panned 100 procent)
Guitar lead: Recorded 4 times: 2 left 2 right

Used a bit of hard limiting to get rid of muted peaks.


Bass: Recorded very fast direct-out no EQ'ing no compression
 
Echo/verb wouldn't help much, since you got some bad takes, and that's like pollishing a turd. You need more condensor mics, and you got too many sm57's ;) If you can retrack, do it. Try 2 mics on the guitar cab, just to see what you can get. The toms are not that important. Point the snare mic more at an angle, so that it catches sounds from a larger surface.

You got zip chance to improve you cymbal sound if you keep using SM57's.

Loose the 58 on the vocals, and make him sing it again, but straight into the condensor BUT with a pop shield. Pointing a mic off axis works against plosif sounds but also takes away alot of treble, aspecially when using a dynamic like a 58, which already doesn't have that much upper-treble, and is mainly used for close micing (and since you said you pointed it off axis already means it's not completely close miced). Try the condensor thing. If that doesn't work/isn't possible, try just giving him the 58 (fuck the plosifs, you can filter some out).

Bassdrum can't get much better. You got the right technique there, but the mic isn't that usefull for kicks. Again, get condensors ;).
 
Dynamics on overheads...

::shudder::

Bass guitar seems non-existant.
 
I kinda like where the snare sound is going, but it needs more high end presence to it. I like the tone of it, but I think it's more like the actual tone of the snare itself, recording filtered out mentally. Someday I'm gonna get me a drumset with a big fatty maple snare, with a big, loose, rocky sound.
 
i got an SM 96 and a AKG c-1000

Wich can be best used for singing?
 
for some reason this song kinda reminds me of the bollweevils
 
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