Mix too bassy on other system...

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xstatic said:
Actually, if it's any kind of heavier rock, the over curve in the picture you posted isn't too far off. There does seem to be a pretty good high end lack at about 8khz and up though. I would try knocking a little bit of 160 off your kick, and give it a nice little boost at 3k and at 8k. That should help it a little. You may even need to turn it down a bit after that.

I did some EQ on the kick and it's sounding pretty good...more attack and less boomy so that's good. I also listened to the mix on my home stereo....MUCH MUCH better sounding. It is lacking a tad in the high end though. Probably another limitation on my monitoring chain. I'll boost those freqencies a tad or cut some around them.
 
Low frequency energy comes into your recording space from all around, and has to be dealt with. Otherwise your recordings will rapidly become muddy sounding as you add LF grundge with every new track you record. Bass traps operate on the theory that you can't dampen (deaden) the acoustic energy in low frequencies without making your room unpleasant to perform in, but you can disperse or otherwise control it by moving it into parts of the spectrum that are more easily scattered. Bass traps capture the bass frequencies loose in your room and scatter them as higher frequencies. Do a search and you'll find a lot of information. I built one into the corner of my studio and it tamed the low end rumble by quite a bit.
 
They trap bass. Part of the monitoring / listening chain - the most important piece in the recording chain. And the most overlooked.

IMO (and most O's), you can NEVER have too much low-end absorption.
 
But I don't have a problem with low end...other than my monitors can't pick up really low end very well.
 
Question...I'm here at work and I'm listening to my mix on headphones....and for no reason, the volume decreases and then comes back at random spots...is this phase cancellation occurring? Not big volume drops, but they are there.
 
Myriad_Rocker said:
Question...I'm here at work and I'm listening to my mix on headphones....and for no reason, the volume decreases and then comes back at random spots...is this phase cancellation occurring? Not big volume drops, but they are there.

On headphones? Maybe, if you panned both sides of stereo miking to one channel. However this would be frequency dependent.

I think first I would look towards your release times on your compressors.
 
But the only thing I've got compression on right now is the vocal track...the volume issues are in the music. More so when the cymbals hit.
 
Here's another idea, change the height of the pickups on your electric so that the bottom strings have less output than the top if you're finding that the guitars are the main issue and the other instruments are even across octaves.

There are alot of variables here including the EQ of the Line 6 that could come into play. Without having the ability to trace the entire signal chain it's difficult for folks to give recommendations other than what's already been given.
 
Myriad_Rocker said:
Question...I'm here at work and I'm listening to my mix on headphones....and for no reason, the volume decreases and then comes back at random spots...is this phase cancellation occurring? Not big volume drops, but they are there.
That could be an arraingement issue. Is this a straight forward guitar, bass, drums, vocals thing or are there parts that come and go. It might not be a volume thing, it might be a density thing. Or even something as simple as the bass guitar plays part of the song in a low register (where it is loud) and another part in a high register (where it doesn't have as much power)
 
masteringhouse said:
Here's another idea, change the height of the pickups on your electric so that the bottom strings have less output than the top if you're finding that the guitars are the main issue and the other instruments are even across octaves.

There are alot of variables here including the EQ of the Line 6 that could come into play. Without having the ability to trace the entire signal chain it's difficult for folks to give recommendations other than what's already been given.

I have done the EQ for the guitars in the DAW. I like the way my guitars sound so I'm probably not going to be changing the height of the pickups. I'm quite sure it's the amp. No big deal for me to EQ on the DAW, though.
 
Farview said:
That could be an arraingement issue. Is this a straight forward guitar, bass, drums, vocals thing or are there parts that come and go. It might not be a volume thing, it might be a density thing. Or even something as simple as the bass guitar plays part of the song in a low register (where it is loud) and another part in a high register (where it doesn't have as much power)

It's pretty straight up guitars, drums, and vocals. There's no bass on it yet. That's getting laid down tomorrow. There are no parts where things just come in and go out except in the chorus. There's an additional guitar part that's panned about 15% left but it's playing the higher part while the main guitars are playing the main part.
 
Would you mind posting a link to the cut? Maybe one of these guys that have more experience could diagnose something from it. I'd like to look at the curve myself and see whats going on between the kick and the palm mutes since you dont have bass on it yet.

I have been thru a little monitoring hell here too but I`m just about squared away again, but not feeling truly safe yet on my playback. I work out of a small 7 x 12 room with a 12' ceiling, that originally had horrid acoustics.
I had a daughter come out to my studio with a friend to "borrow" my machine to dupe a few rap tunes on cd. It has taken me several weeks to get my monitoring back close to my original settings since they.. committed the cardinal sin... and played "whats this knob do?" with dual 31 band eq and the settings on the monitors and the playback channels for the mixer.
Their heads are on pikes down at the end of the drive....
 
Yeah, I'll post a bit of it when I get home this evening. Thanks for the offer.
 
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