Mix Review professional vs amateur

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Okay, there's no way these are the same recording! I mean it's obvious.

In the first mix, the singer is singing in an apparently normal fashion. In the second mix, it's clear someone has seen fit to stuff a dirty tube sock (with red stripes at the calf) in his mouth.

Seriously, for me there's no comparison. The first mix is better. Unfortunately, if the second one turns out to be the "pro" version, I wouldn't be surprised. (Disappointed, but not surprised.) It has the telltale "squash" and "boxed" sound of someone going overboard with a bunch of plugs on the 2 bus.

I'm curious...
 
NL5 said:
I don't think either mix was done by a "pro".
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Nor do I.

The first is better overall. The second? Wassup with the muffled vocals?:confused: Too soft and very muted sounding. The first is a little raw but the better mix.

P.S. Its a good song. The guitar really needs tuned though...
 
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Thanks for the input guys

The first one was done in my garage using cubase and izotope mastering. The second one was done by someone charging money and I used the same mastering software. BTW these are exactly the same source files, just mixed by two different people.I guess NL5 is the winner here, I guess neither are professionally done.

Where do I go with this now? We're going to get someone to master it. Do I give the guy some money and do it on my own, do I tell him to make it better until I'm happy or is my mix good enough? He's charging $600 to do it for 10 songs which is a bargain for industry standards, but a rip off if someone with 7 months experience can do better by most people's ears.

We are doing this for ourselves and are not attempting radio play here or anything. I kinda feel flattered and chumped at the same time, more of the latter
 
steppingonmars said:
Where do I go with this now? We're going to get someone to master it. Do I give the guy some money and do it on my own, do I tell him to make it better until I'm happy or is my mix good enough? He's charging $600 to do it for 10 songs which is a bargain for industry standards, but a rip off if someone with 7 months experience can do better by most people's ears.
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Do you mean the guy who did mic #2 would master?? If so, that would be insane.:D

I dont think #1 is really ready to be mastered yet.:o Really, only the Stones can pull off a recording where the first thing you hear is an out of tune guitar.

The first one was done in my garage using cubase and izotope mastering. The second one was done by someone charging money and I used the same mastering software
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I dont get it. We cant judge mix #2 since you added to it. Can we hear exactly what he gave you?
 
DavidK said:
I dont get it. We cant judge mix #2 since you added to it. Can we hear exactly what he gave you?
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steppingonmars can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he's just pointing out that he used the same mastering software (Ozone) as the "pro" and not that he added anything to it.

Does that make sense?
 
steppingonmars said:
here's the mix he gave me

http://www.box.net/shared/eg2m37yo8w
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Okay, I'm sufficiently confused now.

That newly posted mix (which you say he gave you) sounds like the first of the original two posted. I think base on another post you made, we thought the "muffled vocal" version was his and the clearer one was yours. But this sounds just like the clearer one and your saying it's his.

Which is which? :confused:
 
WhiteStrat said:
steppingonmars can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he's just pointing out that he used the same mastering software (Ozone) as the "pro" and not that he added anything to it.

Does that make sense?
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He said this earlier:

They are two different mixes by two different people with me doing the mastering.
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I did the mastering on both, tried to do them as equal as possible, not trying to slam the other guy or boost my ego, just want opinions. Hmmm yeah maybe your right the guitar is a little out of tune, oh well
 
look at the link again, I posted the wrong song Sorry!!!!!!
 
steppingonmars said:
I did the mastering on both, tried to do them as equal as possible, not trying to slam the other guy or boost my ego, just want opinions.
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Nor or we trying to slam anybody, we are just trying to find out who did what so we can judge. Unmastered versions of both are needed.
 
DavidK said:
He said this earlier: "They are two different mixes by two different people with me doing the mastering."
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Wow, my bad. I totally missed that. So what we're really comparing here is mixes with the assumption that the "mastering" is somewhat comparable, thus a wash?
 
OK, I'm totally confused. Can we start over and someone tell me which 2 links to listen to and who did what...???? Please??? I want to get in on this.
 
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Started a new thread with the last post go to it and reply, you're right this got too confusing
 
steppingonmars said:
He's charging $600 to do it for 10 songs
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There is your answer. I think both mixes are great for ~$60. I've heard far more expensive mixes sound far worse. Both mixes need cleaned up, and work on the vox. It could be a lot better. I think your mixes are a little too boxy sounding and overdone, while his has the vox a tad low and are a bit heavy in the low mids. I thru his unmastered version through a 5 minute mastering job, and it sounds OK to me. Could be better, but certainly worth more than $60.
 
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